“The collecting society GEMA, which manages the rights of composers, lyricists and music publishers and has approximately 100,000 members, filed the case against OpenAI in November 2024.”

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    I have been thinking of adding a license clause to everything I make (code especially) that makes any AI trained on it my sole exclusive property, but I don’t know how defensible that would be in court ?

    Or any other sort of trap clause. But again, I don’t know how to word it. Like “this makes your model public domain” or “you grant a free worldwide unlimited license to every human on earth”.

    Something that makes the mere inclusion of the code in a training data set into absolute legal poison to the would-be owners.

    I am not a lawyer, not even slightly…

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    I mean every German who ever heard of GEMA knew this was inevitable all the way back in 2022. They threatened entire cities to the point some of them don‘t play music on Christmas markets anymore. You can‘t win against those guys, just hope for a hefty settlement.

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      GEMA is so bizarre. If you’re a musician and composer and want to do a live concert that consists only of songs written by you and there is an entrence fee, you’ll basically have to give them all of said fee or even more. They are destroying any culture really, only to give the money to some of the most successful musicians. And that even if you yourself are not part of GEMA, so don’t get ANYTHING in return.

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      My understanding is that it’s for learning only. You should be safe for your private singing purposes. It seems like you would owe them royalties if you created your own song lyrics, after having read/heard one of theirs…

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      They sure would like that.

      Never thought I’d hail the GEMA for what they’re doing…

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      Illegaly ingesting. I hate it that private people are fined when they look wrong at a minor hash of a snippet of data but when a corporation does it in full and monetizes it, it’s fine!

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    How is it an “undisclosed [amount of] damages” - aren’t court rulings supposed to be public [records]?

    I know stuff like the rulings of me going to court with the driver and insurance companies involved in a car accident certainly was public (in Germany).

    Anyone in the know please ELI5 and/or point me at the relevant laws, how/what/in which cases (parts of) rulings can be “undisclosed”.

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      Settlements can go undisclosed by agreement of the parties involved. Civil court is different from criminal; the former is for the benefit of interested parties, the latter is for the benefit of the public at large. Criminal courts can do some things behind closed doors as well but that usually requires a need of the state (such as protection of a judge, jury, state, etc.)

      This is assuming a legal system similar to that in OPs post.

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    The judge should be disbarred. This is thought policing. That is the long term inevitability that this precedent creates. This is next level dystopian dark ages. Abstract thought is dead. The fuckwits have no big picture logic. You are no longer allowed to share any knowledge or speak of anything you have ever read. There is no such thing as an original thought. Everything you have is from standing on the shoulders of others.

    Lol, a generation of fuckwits wanton punching self in face.