• ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one
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    4 months ago

    AI built on a very specific data set to help experts, researchers. health professionals, etc. I have no issues with people using it as a tool.

    What I don’t need, want, or like is AI being in my fridge, summazing a two line email, creating art, a glorified chat bot or anything outside of very limited and niche uses.

  • imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    4 months ago

    I see this issue similar to music industry.

    Musicians would complain that modern mainstream music is crap and is ruining** good music** for years. Major Labels would say “fuck you, we do what we want” to them. Music enjoyers would support musicians. But vast majority of listeners wouldnt care about what they are listening to.

    Now changing some words around:

    Technicians/Programmers would complain that AI/LLM is crap and is ruining internet/peoples minds for years. Big Tech would say “fuck you, we do what we want” to them. Power users would support technicians/programmers. But vast majority of normie users wouldn’t care about what they utilize/consume online.

    Most of humanity doesnt care.

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      I watch Rick Beato on YouTube. The guy loves music and appreciates every genre. When he reviews a lot of the newer top hits on Spotify, he genuinely wants to find something he can like, but a lot of it is unfortunately not at all original or musically interesting.

      As a technologist, I genuinely want to like AI and give it a fair chance, despite how infuriating the tech bros pushing it are. For coding especially, it’s really hit and miss, though. Yesterday, for example, Claude did a pretty good job analyzing some C++ code and helping me make a Python UDP socket to consume its binary protocol, though the code is really messy and needed refactoring. Other times, though, it wastes my time generating hallucinated garbage. Also, if I get one more PR to review full of AI slop where someone didn’t do their due diligence, I could just scream.

      You’re right that most of humanity doesn’t care, which is why the top hits on Spotify are mostly unoriginal and musically uninteresting background noise, and software quality is declining overall due to AI while companies continue to switch to subscription models to milk every last dime they can while most people go along with it. Humanity as a whole is a frustrating lot.

  • Prior_Industry@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Sounds like the guidance you use to get in the 80s about finding a ditch to crawl into and covering yourself in leaves if the “bomb” gets dropped so you were easier to clean up.

    He just wants people to go away quietly whilst he profits.

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    4 months ago

    It’s destroying our economy, our ecology, our politics, our society. What’s not to like?

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      4 months ago

      Mostly so that lonely losers can chat to a bot, have an AI partner or generate garbage.

      Over 40% of the use is for completely stupid things and it seems those users have zero issues burning our planet so they can do dumb shit.

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        In a aociety where mental health is completely overlooked and treatments unavailable for most people and/or extremely expensive, it’s a very easy way to get at least some respite for many people.

        And sure, it can harm some people too, but it’s understandable why it’s used like that.

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      4 months ago

      To be fair, capitalism is inherently incompatible with advancements in robotics and AI. Doesn’t mean the technology is destroying the economics and society. The eco-societal system was already broken to begin with.

      • selokichtli@lemmy.ml
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        4 months ago

        Unless you are working on some engineering or scientific problem that needs these models to get to a solution, even if it works for you, it’s still a waste of energy.

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          I have heavy problems to solve. Claude Opus could solve it. I could solve it too in 2 days or so on my own, but with Opus it was about half an hour.

          I’m not advertising claude, if it gives bullshit response I turn it off instantly.

          Another example: In the app I work, there’s a huge list of city integration files. I had a loose set of specifications for a new city, and with claude I could roll out a new prototype in no time. It saved me about a month of work.

          It’s expensive and energy hungry for sure.

        • oopsgodisdeadmybad@lemmy.zip
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          Looks like you’re the one without understanding.

          Even if I grant that there’s a few super helpful uses that are good for humanity (and I don’t grant that at all), it’s still actively harmful to the other 99.3% of us.

          Unless you’re saying it can end cancer, keep us young forever, provide literally limitless energy, and instantaneous networking, all while giving us potential to explore the universe, then it’s still not worth what it’s costing us RIGHT NOW.

          Until you can make it do any of that without being owned or pushed by CEOs for money, then it will never be worth it.

          Sure it could be useful if it didn’t cost anything and did everything, but that’s about as far as I believe it.

          It should stay in the research and theory phase until it’s perfect. And it never will be, hence most people attitudes on it. No. 00000001% change of finding a good execution of a use is worth what it is costing us to try out.

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            The issue is people downoting him for stating a simple fact.

            Like, I also use AI a bit, it can hepp productivity a lot too, and my opinion is still that overall if we had no ML at all the world woild be a better place than now, and that’s despite the many extremely good use cases for ML and even LLMs.

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            4 months ago

            My point is the group here has made it quite clear there’s no room for honest discussion. And that’s pretty weak.

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              There would be, if it was any less black and white. Show something worth discussing and people would jump at that conversation.

              Given that they’re doesn’t seen to be much coming up in that vein, there’s no room. Room would be made of there was something to make room for.

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          Billionaire tech bros stole all of the information on the internet and are using to make CSAM. it’s making all our energy prices increase and using up all of our water.

          If you really can’t understand why people aren’t into that I really don’t know what else to tell you.

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            4 months ago

            You really just prove my point. Someone posted they found a good use for it and you just want to scream at them. That’s not a discussion.

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              Except that no one screamed at them. Everyone posted a reasonable explanation as to why ai is a slop of shit. If that’s not a discussion then I don’t know what to tell you.

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        It sometimes works for me. But the old computer truth of garbage in garbage out still applies. It’s got the world’s garbage to sift through.

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    I like LLMs and use them a lot for boring task. It’s a nice tool, but I’d love to see it being marketed as such, and not as a panacea or a catastrophe. And gosh, I’d love people to stop shoving it down people’s throats. No, Adobe, I don’t need a summary, and I see it’s a long document, stop wasting time and resources…

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    4 months ago

    just one more slop bro. I promise bro just one more slop and it’ll fix everything bro. bro, just one more slop. please just one more, one more slop and we can fix this whole problem bro, bro cmon just give me one more slop i promise bro, bro bro please! just need one more slop