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    4 months ago

    I’d give up computing altogether, or even commit suicide if living mainly means being subservient to these soulless parasites.

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      Live on. We need manpower to fight the upcoming fight. Every person counts.

      Don’t die for nothing. Die for something.

    • finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      I don’t think Stadia’s problem was the technology, though. It actually worked pretty well if you had a decent internet connection.

      The issue, imo, was that nobody trusted in the longevity of the platform. Given Google’s track record, why would anyone want to buy in to something that would likely only last a few years? I know they ended up refunding people, but it’s not like they do that with every prodict they’ve cancelled.

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        why would anyone want to buy in to something that would likely only last a few years?

        I ask people this every time they put time and money into a new live service game. I was referred to this community when I went down a self-hosted VPN rabbit hole for old LAN games whose multiplayer will never die.

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          Yeah that’s the thing, it’s especially hard to trust a newer service without any track record of longevity or a company with a proven track record of poor support. Even then, everything dies eventually. Companies will shut down servers due to funding/popularity issues (it doesn’t make sense to continue spending money and dev time on a game nobody is playing anymore) or to funnel players into a newer game. It would be great to see more live service or otherwise online games (e.g. MMOs) that are self-hostable.

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            If they’re self-hostable, they cease to be live services. And I’m just fine with that. I have no problem completely ignoring live services as a customer, but the problem I do have is how much research it takes to find out if a game I’m interested in is built to last or otherwise respects my values. Every Borderlands game has LAN multiplayer except for the GOTY edition of the first game, and even then, you can still acquire the regular edition of that game that still has it. Meanwhile, Hitman, a single player game, locks a lot of its best stuff behind an arbitrary server connection; the community has made pirate server executables to replace it, but it doesn’t mean that I want to reward IO Interactive with my dollars for that design decision.

      • Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de
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        I had a good connection back then (FTTH 100mbit, <5ms latency) and it worked like shit. There are WAY too many variables that can screw up this cloud gaming stuff, the whole concept is messed up.

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      I had a friend who was a true believer in Stadia, he even sold his gaming PC as he was gaming in Stadia full time.

      When Stadia shut down he told me “at least I get to keep the controller”

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        Stadia was great for what it was. As a hardcore PC gamer who went more casual it was the answer to my gaming needs. Being able to play anywhere on any device was amazing.

        They refunded all my purchases and I got to keep a bunch of free hardware I had gotten with Stadia bundles.

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    4 months ago

    And when we don’t he’ll just use AWS to make our PCs worse on the net than his cloud services?

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      I think that the problem will be if software comes out that’s doesn’t target home PCs. That’s not impossible. I mean, that happens today with Web services. Closed-weight AI models aren’t going to be released to run on your home computer. I don’t use Office 365, but I understand that at least some of that is a cloud service.

      Like, say the developer of Video Game X says “I don’t want to target a ton of different pieces of hardware. I want to tune for a single one. I don’t want to target multiple OSes. I’m tired of people pirating my software. I can reduce cheating. I’m just going to release for a single cloud platform.”

      Nobody is going to take your hardware away. And you can probably keep running Linux or whatever. But…not all the new software you want to use may be something that you can run locally, if it isn’t released for your platform. Maybe you’ll use some kind of thin-client software — think telnet, ssh, RDP, VNC, etc for past iterations of this — to use that software remotely on your Thinkpad. But…can’t run it yourself.

      If it happens, I think that that’s what you’d see. More and more software would just be available only to run remotely. Phones and PCs would still exist, but they’d increasingly run a thin client, not run software locally. Same way a lot of software migrated to web services that we use with a Web browser, but with a protocol and software more aimed at low-latency, high-bandwidth use. Nobody would ban existing local software, but a lot of it would stagnate. A lot of new and exciting stuff would only be available as an online service. More and more people would buy computers that are only really suitable for use as a thin client — fewer resources, closer to a smartphone than what we conventionally think of as a computer.

      EDIT: I’d add that this is basically the scenario that the AGPL is aimed at dealing with. The concern was that people would just run open-source software as a service. They could build on that base, make their own improvements. They’d never release binaries to end users, so they wouldn’t hit the traditional GPL’s obligation to release source to anyone who gets the binary. The AGPL requires source distribution to people who even just use the software.

      • nikki@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        i will simply not use new software for my personal cases then, if it comes down to it ill make my own. im a simple girl, ill manage my media and play my 20 year old games till i die

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    We all keep hoping he’ll stop being a greedy asshole and he hasn’t tried to do that so i guess we’ll all have to live with the disappointment.

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    I’m not so sure how ‘quiet’ it was. We’ve been putting desktops in the cloud for quite a while now.

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    Fuck that, I want to own my shit and will build my own fucking server before renting space in a corporate owned server.

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    4 months ago

    This is mostly unrelated to the post, but, similarly to everything being “slammed” I’m tired of everyone “saying the quiet part out loud”.

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    I’d rather have no PC than a cloud PC.

    And I’m a computer scientist, so that’s saying something ! I’d sooner switch careers to lumberjack (lumberjane ? What’s the feminine ?) than have to work on that feudal nonsense.