28 TB $449.99 Price per TB: $16.07
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if 100% of the hardware goes to running data centers then we’ll just get cloud computers which are really good and fun to use and we like them for $40
Nah, fuck that
I forgot this was Reddit and you have to /s or nobody knows it’s a joke
I knew you were joking when I saw $40 price. $40 per minute perhaps. On top of your $100 ISP bill.
Time to buy some sbc boards so I can actually host content in ten years, with whoever’s software considering the foss devs will be broke.
Thank fuck I’m a millennial and I only have thirty more years on the disappointment machine.
If you’re under 30, learn how to shoot. You won’t be doing much hosting.
Oh wow, 500$. So what?
It’s been a while since I bought storage. $500 for 24TB seems like a steal to me. Not that I have any need for 24TB. Also, I don’t trust Seagate drives. I’d rather have four, 6TB drives than one 24TB drive, but that’s just experience talking–I’ve lost several drives over the years, and most of them were Seagate. YMMV.
Less than a year ago 279 was a baseline price for 24tb
Man, i remember paying $300 for a 200gb ATA back in the day…
POP ALREADY!
See? That’s why Satya Nadella doesn’t care about Windows. Soon nobody will be able to afford a PC anyways.
They want consumers to have cheap low-resource systems so they are forced to use the cloud for storage and processing.
And bow down to the subscription economy.
Yes, all the power to do any form of large computation needs to be traceable and rented. You will own nothing, rent everything, and be happy with it.
Billionaires are not going to give you a chance to decide whether you want a dumb thin AI client or not.
You won’t be able to procure the hardware even if you could afford it.
We are all gonna be some version the brotherhood of steel now
and if you don’t shut up and like it you will be cut out of the internet … black balled by ATT/T Mobile/Verizon while their refuse to drop fiber to the curb but will end up puling the copper off the poles so no more wired internet.
The future without a war and America losing looks mighty fucking grim
NOT UNTIL they are done recording profits and laying off people constantly. until they run out of people to "fire:
Fuck, I thought HDDs were spared cause of their low speed.
They still have controllers with chips.
Companies usually use HDDs because they last longer and are cheaper
We will never be able to replace our old thinkpads
Argh. I was hoping to upgrade my server storage later this year…
Yeah… in November I was looking at the exos to get 4 or 5 on serverpartdeals, it was around 330, but I wanted to wait until January. Well last I checked they were 430 and I decided I could wait until next year ugh
Are we really sure that AI is not just used as a scape goat for companies to raise prices?
Why HDDs?
All prices have been fake since the bailouts started.
It’s a cascade effect. Memory pricing went up -> Increased price of SSD with DRAM cache -> Increased pricing of DRAM-less SSDs after demand shifted -> HDDs became significantly more cost effective again as a storage device but now the demand for them increased so price went up for them as well.
2 months ago I’ve got Samsung 990 EVO Plus 4TB for 235€ now that’s the price of 2TB and the 4TB is almost 400€.
I’ve got 8TB Seagate Exos 7E10 8TB for 182€ in May now it’s almost 260€.
We’re fucked…
if you are looking at this from the US that is not necessarily the only thing that could be driving prices up though. You’ve got tariffs and a much weaker dollar than it used to be right now…
A weak dollar will work great for you when you bring back all those manufacturing jobs from overseas and start exporting the surplus production. Any day know. Any day.
US prices are just EU prices + sales tax now
Yeah right, of they’re buying thousands of terrabytes, I doubt they’re doing in in 1 TB HDD SATA drives.
I work at a data center, and there are indeed big arrays of 1 tb sata HDDs. Although this isn’t for AI, our main clients are local companies and healthcare
My understanding is the large AI companies sign purchase agreements with the manufacturers for X amount of drives. The manufacturers then take whatever chips/platters and build those drives. The AI companies have signed such large agreements that all the chips and layers are going to whatever drives they’re asking for and none left to make consumer drives.
They’re replacing us. Until now, corporations have obviously marketed to the working class, even the poorest of us. And they put in that effort, but now they’re moving past us bottom 90% of consumers and focusing on the top 10% and of course the ultra rich specifically. The top 10% of consumers already accounted for 55% of all buying power in Feb 2025, before tariffs, before the unnamed recession we’re in now, before the shutdown and mass firings.
So now you can imagine what that number is at, and you can see their thought process. It’s just not worth bothering to market and sell to us commoners.
Now, I think they’re stupid and I think they’re way too confident in something like the AI bubble, which will pop eventually. That being said, most new purchases (cars, clothes, electronics, ect…) are by the top 10%. They are gunning for our buying power and they are gunning for our labor power with AI. If they succeed, we will lose our two biggest bargaining chips. The ultra rich know this, and they hate that we have had any say over the economy.
If we’re gonna do this general strike, we gotta do it soon, because they are actively working to make action like that impossible.
They are working an infinite money glitch:
What if we were our own customers? Then we could charge whatever we wanted and just use the money from our dumb investors, and since we are also the producers we make a ton of money on the sales!
The compone ts to make an HDD are almost the same though
The tools which make 1 tb HDDs also make bigger ones.
Storage capacity for datacenters and other data-hungry business operations (think YouTube scale).
Current alternatives don’t reach the same capacity per dollar without caveats (magnetic tape has an incredibly slow seek time and SSDs are too expensive for non-cache usage).
Of course, AI data harvesting is essentially creating artificial (sorry) demand for even more data capacity, and it doesn’t make rational sense for them to use other forms of hardware.
Fun fact - the scale of data involved is so great that Google famously used “sneakernets” (give an employee a backpack of hard drives and tell them to go from A to B) over traditional internet or intranet connections between their larger facilities in the 2010s, because it was faster.
The data used to create that image of the black hole had a transfer speed of 14GB/s because ~700TB of it was captured in Antarctica and spent 14 hours traveling by plane
We’ve taken all the blame and put it on AI like it’s acting independently and appeared out of nowhere. This is global collusion to fuck the customers everywhere. It’s people doing this.
Goddamnit. First ram now this? I’m never making my nas
Fuck ai
Dude from NVIDIA: “please stop talking bad about AI. It’s hurting my feelings.”
- want to make a server
- RAM and HDD prices spike
Fuck this
If it’s for a homelab or small project refurbished models are still a good deal but you should hurry, my vendor is running low on hardware that was sitting for years… I got an R630 (40 cores, 64Gb RAM) on offer a few months ago for peanuts…
I wonder what are peanuts in this context. It sounds like a great server!
honestly servers don’t need the latest hardware: just build using DDR4 (or even DDR3): it’s half the price per GB or less each step down, and honestly the biggest reason you want RAM in a server is for a ZFS cache, which is going to be bottlenecked on plenty of other things far before your RAM speed (IMO; i’ve done exactly 0 testing)
(though the max size of a DDR3 module is 8GB so on most consumer hardware that will limit you to 32GB total)
DDR4 RDIMM is like 4 times what it was this summer so even that won’t save you.
It still cost a lot compared to this summer :/
Proxmox cluster and shuck externals I started during the 2008 crash this is how I’d do budget HL
