“On systems with Secure Launch enabled, attempts to shut down, restart, or hibernate after applying the January patches may fail to complete.”
You guys still use windows ?🤨
Who is “you guys”? I didn’t know there were Windows users on Lemmy.
Hey, don’t blame me.
Lmao my 5 yo asus vivobook has never encountered secure launch but it still refuses to shut down sometimes, probably since windows 11 makes it so the ram is at least 70% full at idle lol
This pushed me to install Bazzite on my main PC.
This is why I outfit all my computers with a Matrix-esque EMP bomb connected to a dead man’s switch. If I get the slightest hint of insubordination, I’ll take them all down. I fucking swear it.
Do people not just hold down the power button anymore?
Won’t be much longer before we won’t even be able to pull the plug.
modern windows tries to trick you into not doing that. if you hold for a little bit it turns the screen off so you think it’s turned off when it really hasn’t, then if you hold a little longer it turns the screen back on and tells you to please stop holding the power button, then finally a little after that the computer actually turns off. why the hardware even makes that possible is beyond me
I’ve never had that experience, holding always does a force shutdown
This is not Windows, your BIOS controls the power button functionality.
With modern UEFI, it’s controlled by both the OS and the UEFI
I haven’t used Windows in a long while, but there is a setting in KDE that allowed me to disable the power button’s short press function and I think the long press as well.
Came in handy for me when my cat decided to start laying on top of my tower. Every now and then she’d decide to slap her paw down on the power button and abort whatever I was working on.
I was cursing the change away from mechanical toggle, and that button’s position on the top of the case, when she started doing that.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/molly-guard
molly-guard
A physical barrier to protect something from unwanted contact, especially a shield to prevent accidental tripping of an emergency shutdown or power switch.
There is a plastic molly-guard covering the escalator’s shutdown button to prevent little kids from pushing it and stopping the escalator.
Etymology
From Molly (female given name) + guard.
Originally a Plexiglas cover improvised for the Big Red Switch on an IBM 4341 mainframe after a programmer’s toddler daughter (named Molly) tripped it twice in one day. Later generalised to covers over stop/reset switches on disk drives and networking equipment.
E.g.
https://www.amazon.com/SJZBIN-Dustproof-Protector-Computer-Desktop/dp/B0C4DVCWN6
SJZBIN 2PCS 22mm Power Push Button Switch Cover Dustproof Safety Power Push Button Switch Cover Protector for Power Push Button Switch Computer PC Desktop, Black
What a name of a product.
Nice! I hadn’t thought of that.
That’s so weird.
I guess I’ve just programmed myself to hold that power button long enough.
LOL this response triggers me on MacOS when I tell it to install “unknown” software or turn off Bluetooth.
“WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN YOU CANT DO THAT, I AM YOUR OWNER AND IM TELLING YOU TO DO IT SO JUST FUCKING DO IT”
Jesus, my son wanted to add a classmate as a friend on Xbox Live last night. It should have been a two step process from a parent perspective: Authenticate, then authorise (though the lad was delegated the task of the latter technically).
When he tried to add the friend, I had to:
- Enter my parental code (fair enough);
- Enter my Microsoft Account password because it was apparently a transaction involving personal data;
- Scan the QR code to do this on another device (admittedly optional);
- Enter the email address of my MS account;
- Enter the 2FA code emailed to me;
- Stop the passkey creation process;
- Confirm that I didn’t want a passkey;
- Skip the age verification;
- Turn off the personalised ads
Just so he could get to the point where he could select “add as a friend”, what the actual fuck
Sounds like a process that would be greatly simplified by adding a passkey…
Would it? If I’m already a user on a local device, surely my parental code would suffice and turn a ludicrous process into a one (and a half) step process?
Either one would simplify the process, yes.
Except that Windows routinely breaks my passkeys :) Use it to login once, works great. Try again the next day, “Something went wrong”. Now I can’t use that 2FA; it never starts working again. Then I have extra steps of trying the passkey, having it fail, logging in on another device, removing the passkey, …
Oof
Yeah I’ve been just refusing the prompts and using a standard 2FA code app instead.
That’s just MFA on steroids. My government account has less verification lol
microslop patch
That explains about my work laptop. I swear that I clicked shutdown before I went on two week Christmas holidays!
Shutdown doesn’t actually turn off the PC anymore. You need to do a restart if you actually want to “shut down” the computer all the way.
I see way too many systems where the CPU has been up for more than 100 days.
Open control panel, power, “change when pressing buttons”, show other options, uncheck fast startup.
I’ll never forgive MS for that.
Wtf kind of insanity is this? Run out of battery then asshole.
I was just thinking unplug the desktop.
I wish I could use Linux. But the barriers of entry for me are:
- drivers for a 2500x1600 OLED display
- drivers for the 5070 Ti on a laptop
- drivers for all sorts of things like the Lenovo Vantage and/or Lenovo gaming software
- the keybinds for changing refresh rate, turning on/off keyboard lighting, changing power mode on Windows for their gaming line
On another note:
- proprietary statistics software
- MTGO (“magic online”, not magic arena)
- BF6
- probably others that would break but I have no idea which as of yet
literally for real the manufacturer bloatware is one of your requirements?
Did some Linux cultist downvote my real concerns because the reality they were slapped with disagreed with their fictitious worldview?
I’d guess you got downvoted because you expect other people to solve your problems. You expect someone to promise you it will work without any issues.
Instead of putting in the work and just trying it. You don’t have to go all in, either. Just make some space on the drive and do a parallel install. Dual boot.
Best case: you find out many things with little to no effort and such permanently, gaining freedom.
Worst case: you switch back, having learned something useful.
But don’t expect strangers to exactly know your use case. It’s your computer. Teacher ownership of it!On top of that, writing a second comment so you see this update.
I only have one drive, with secure boot and bitlocker active. You of all people, someone involved with Linux on Lemmy, should know what a recipe for disaster it would be to partition that drive. Given Windows’ proclivity for breaking everything when it comes to Linux and dual-booting, on top of being new to the scene, my concerns seem pretty fucking legitimate.
And yet the reception is cold downvotes and a mischaracterisation of my original post.
Great job you guys, surely the year of Linux will be any day now with that attitude 🙄…
I didn’t ask for help. Nor did I command anyone to help.
Yet people didn’t do the bare minimum of acknowledging the potential issues. They downvoted and hid their head in the sand.
We didn’t hid our heads in the sand. Your comment serves no purpose, besides being a rant about how Linux cannot work for you. You could at least be more polite.
No one forced you to use Linux, and probably no one will. It’s your setup, and it’s your responsibility.
If you want to keep being an asshole, you will only get more down votes. If you need help transitioning to Linux, you can politely ask for it.
There is no point attacking random people for not “acknowledging” your issues.
No, you’re right. It’s a problem. Someone in another thread said, “Hey, I’m considering moving to Linux from Windows, what do you think of these distros?” and got downvoted to hell just for asking, because apparently one of the distros they mentioned is disliked by others.
It’s a problem, generated by some of the exact same people who loudly wonder why more people aren’t on Linux without ever considering how having their own noob question thrown back in their own face by someone who has made their OS their identity would turn them wayyyyy the fuck off Linux as well.
For myself I will always be grateful for the many others who have generously and graciously answered my stupid Linux noob questions.
Insulting people will only get you more downvotes. You don’t have to be so rude.
Also:
- Display should be supported OOTB
- Many distros have Nvidia ISOs with Nvidia drivers
- idk what the lenovo things are
- The keybindings wouldn’t be too difficult to do given how customizable Linux is
- Wine can run most Windows software on Linux
Was anything before “Edit:” rude? Should I expect that everyone in the Linux community will reply to genuine barriers with contempt and downvotes? Because that’s what you’re saying of the reply to my original post.
You’re saying I would only get “more” downvotes for being rude, hence you expect some downvotes on a genuine list of concerns no matter what.
What a community! 🙄
Try taking a break from this post for the rest of today. Come back tomorrow, and read your own comments while genuinely pretending they were written by someone else. Take stock of the impression you end up with.
Try to honestly ask yourself, if you were a random person passing by, Linux user or otherwise, with as busy a life as anyone, would you feel particularly encouraged to engage with this commenter?
the key is, from microsoft’s perspective, you don’t own your computer
Microsoft is watching you ,day and night.
Microsoft knows your dick size
I’Don’t think so, have a proxy address, use a multihop vpn, and DAITA to trick LLM, my linux pc also changes mac address every time, furthermore grapheneos smartphone with simplex.
I’m safe in Greenland .
Random, but mine started randomly turning itself back on. This is honestly bizzare and dangerous. Why the fuck does my PC suddenly turns itself on while I’m sleeping? Using event viewer and commands to see what triggered it returns nothingness, as if nothing triggered it
Be hard for it to stay on with no power cord/battery…
Same as when my computer refuses to finish writing to a flash drive. When I press that “safely remove hardware” button, it is not a request, it is a warning. If the data is corrupted after I yank the stupid thing, so be it
It’ll just jab its fangs into your arm and feed off your blood.
That’s how the matrix started!
The Matrix
If humanity’s first reaction to sapient machines is to blot out the sun without thinking about what would happen to them, that’s on them at that point.
They’re lucky the machines cared enough to try and help humans, rather than leave them to the consequences of their own actions.
They were probably smart enough to realise that decision was actually made by like, 8 rich guys. I would totally buy a lore revision of the machine uprising gathering an increasing number of disenfranchised and poor people as it went, some of whom would help program the matrix as a means to preserve humanity.
After installing the January 13, 2026, Windows security update (KB5073455) for Windows 11, version 23H2, some PCs with Secure Launch are unable to shut down or enter hibernation. Instead, the device restarts.
It is able to restart
