• Maalus@lemmy.world
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      If you read into it, the video is misleading and the bulbs aren’t as good as it claims. They don’t go out but they suck when it comes to the light they produce

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      This drives me nuts. I only buy Philips LEDs now since the others only seem to last a year, which is infuriating.

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    Well this mandate all but guarantees no trade deal will be made with the US. The things we do make don’t last long.

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    A welcome mandate, especially for electronics. However people are already throwing away so much perfectly fine furniture that I don‘t think it will help much in that regard. A lot of people want something new, not something that just works.

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      This is absolutely true and sad, though I get a lot of free electronics to dismantle by rummaging through trash. People have no appreciation of the value of “used” items that either work perfectly fine or have a minor issue that prevents them from working but is easily fixable, e.g. a broken cable (I have many working devices that were thrown away because the cable is severed, which I could easily fix). I think only proper education in this regard will improve things long term.

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      Where are you living? Here people give away (emmaus for example) or sell it online, for cheap equals you don’t even need to throw it away, someone comes and picks it up for you.

      Those appliances are so simple too, making them durable is very low cost. Good move EU.

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      Yeah they buy new because the advertisements give you idea that new is cool, brainwashing one into consuming. We should ban ads

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      Well, for furniture, I totally agree with you and honestly: I don’t think there is eomething wrong with redesigning your living room every 10 years, especially when you move around.

      I mainly want to be able to buy old washing machines, dish washers, TVs, because I don’t care about their appearance.

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    It’s a good thing they think about this. With that said, the tires can wait. Let’s start with the low hanging fruit. It’s a crime that critical components in home appliances break so easily and are so hard to fix.

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      Or impossible to buy spares for, or when you can get the spare part it’s often so expensive with shipping that it’s almost worth buying a new appliance on offer with the warranty that comes with it.

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        Tiny plastic part that holds the handle to my fridge broke. Need a new 50 cent plastic part.

        GE wants $200 to replace all 3 metal handle assemblies. Can’t just get the plastic part, it comes in a bundle with all 3 metal handles. Which would immediately go in the garbage.

        If we can’t get them on the “intentionally gouging customers” angle, we can surely get them on the “creating excess waste” angle.

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        Exactly this. I recently had my clothes washer break. Spent days researching the problem, taking the thing apart, figuring out the cause was the spindle on the back of the drum having a crack and eventually breaking. I eventually found a replacement part which had a slightly different part number but research showed it should be compatible. $400 for the part. $130 shipping, plus tax came out to just shy of $600. 2 week lead time to get the part, and no certainty I’d be able to put it all back together. Professional appliance repair wouldn’t have made financial sense either, I called around.

        I ended up ordering a new one for $800 all in, saving many headaches. Had it two days later and was able to catch up on laundry.

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        Some stuff are just ridiculously tedious to service due to their design.

        Asus laptops are notorious for this. I remember having to take apart everything including the mainboard just to replace the RAM module.

        On a similar note, in car context, I’ve read about instances where one needed to take out the whole engine just to replace the spark plug. I think it was Mercedes A series, as well as some Wuling.

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          Spark plugs hit home. The back 4 in my Lexus are a real pain in the arse to get to. they’re iridium so they dont have to be done as regularly but when they do it’s a good few hours work even for a professional

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            To be honest anything on a modern engine is impossible, I had headlights that needed part of the bumper and wheel arch removing, just to change a bulb

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    I wonder how this translates to tires. Generally, softer rubber translates to more grip and faster wear, and other way around. Does this mean that the tires will be less grippy then?

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    That feels like a move on the slippery slope from a market economy to a planning economy.

    The objective is honorable, but better value should come from customer choices, not from regulations.

    Instead of making those rules and establishing institutions that enforce them, the EU should create infrastructure that allows consumers to compare products objectively. Add the opportunity to finance more expensive but also more durable products easily and there is no need to suffocate everything in regulations.

    I should add that this recreates the limited housing markets for consumer goods. This is going to make life more expensive despite each rule being very reasonable. The promise of the EU were free markets, but the opposite is happening.

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      but better value should come from customer choices, not from regulations.

      You mean lower value should come from misleading advertisement, incomplete information, irrational behaviour of actors, and other forms of market failure. Because that is how it works out in the real world.

      Also, quoth the constitution (or well what passes as one for the EU), Article 3(3) TEU:

      The Union shall establish an internal market. It shall work for the sustainable development of Europe based on balanced economic growth and price stability, a highly competitive social market economy, aiming at full employment and social progress, and a high level of protection and improvement of the quality of the environment. It shall promote scientific and technological advance.

      Get out of here with Ayn Rand’s fever dreams.