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      I do know a few people who do. They get access to the better model, and the history is retained so it let’s them build on previous stuff. Still stupid to me, because it still give you wrong info.

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    We need educational institutions to stop paying microsoft as a fashion trend.

    Getting bus pass in my university takes 5 business days so they can “save cost on studente who don’t use it.”

    Meanwhile everyone’s student gmail implicitly has a subscription to copilot, gemini, and openai at the same time; it doesn’t matter if you are using them or not.

    Paid by our tuition no doubt.

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    I don’t pay for AI. There is no real value in it at massive scale for it to be paid for me. Plus it is harmful. I can local host AI for small tasks like cleaning up some data.

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      Yep! I feel way, way safer when I use something running on my laptop as opposed to feeding things into the bottomless hole that is Microsoft or Anthropic.

      All I want is something to double-check the verbiage of an email to make sure I’m not coming off like an asshole.

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      Also, why paying for AI? You can use it for free, and when you finish your free daily limit, you just switch to another AI: Gemini, Perplexity, Claude, Le Chat, DeepSeek… rinse and repeat.

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    I initially subscribed to ChatGPT because I got a job as the only devops guy at an organization, when I had very limited devops experience, and ChatGPT essentially served as my mentor. I justified keeping it for a long time because it helped my productivity; bugs that I had no idea where to start with could be worked through given a few hours (or days) of back-and-forth.

    As I climbed the learning curve, ChatGPT became proportionally less helpful, but I kept it because it’s kind of useful for rubber ducky debugging. I did find Copilot to be pretty handy for writing docstrings (especially for keeping consistent formatting conventions), but the actual code completions were more annoying than anything.

    When all was said and done, I cancelled my ChatGPT and Copilot subscriptions because I’m taking on a mortgage tomorrow and I literally just can’t afford them. I have Ollama running on my homelab server, but I only have enough vRAM for a 7B-param model, and it kind of sucks ass, but whatever. At the end of the day, I like using my brain.

    UPDATE (because I just thought of it after posting): I do think that “AI-as-a-mentor” is a good use-case of AI. It really helped me cut my teeth on the basics of Linux. I often find that it’s easier to learn when you have a working example of code or config that you can dissect than to bash your head against the wall just trying to figure out how to get something to run at all in the first place.

    For my birthday challenge this year, I’m learning how to read and write Devanagari as a surprise to my Indian grandparents. I asked my local qwen model to generate some worksheets for me to practice with, and it totally flopped. It gave away all the answers. I do think ChatGPT would have done better, but maybe I could have gotten sufficient results with a better GPU.

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      Sorry but thinking of a shitty chatbot as your “mentor” is absolute brainrot.

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        I know AI is an emotionally charged topic, but I think your frustration is misdirected. I find that the best way to learn tech stuff is with hand-on experience, and to that end, it works pretty well to try something, ask why it didn’t work like I expected it to, and get instantaneous feedback. Or to start with a working example and pick it apart so I can learn the syntax. I’m not saying it’s a replacement for reading official documentation or figuring things out for yourself, but it makes it a lot easier to get started.

        Fundamentally, I’m a humanist. I believe that we should use technology in a way that augments our brain instead of circumventing it. I don’t let AI write code for me, but I don’t really see the harm in having it present information in a digestible format.

        I’ve always been bored by lectures and tutorials because they’re not good at meeting me at my level of experience. I don’t think anyone would argue that having a tutor/mentor who gives you individual attention and meets you where you at will help you climb the learning curve way faster. And when you’re in a situation where you don’t have a human mentor, AI can be pretty useful.

        I worked at an organization where there were no senior software people and my supervisor told me you “hey, you created this dashboard – now deploy it”. My only relevant experience was having hosted a Minecraft server on Windows 10. After a few months of iterating with ChatGPT, I knew the basics of how to use containerization and deploy an app on a RHEL server. 3 years later, I’m doing it at a tech consulting firm, and I’m the guy everyone goes to for help writing containerfiles and compose files. They promoted me from data scientist (I have an MS in data science) to solutions architect, all because I used AI to learn the basics of Linux devops, and then got a shit ton of practice by self-hosting.

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    if you really want to hurt them use a free account and keep on asking to make you innane pictures and stuff. I mean it will waste energy though but it will cost them money.

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    What about using it without a subscription though ? I’m unsure whether this is good or bad for them, it loses them money but it also makes their user numbers look good so idk

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      At least disable “improve model for everyone” and only use temporary chats. We can’t trust they’ll follow it though. Duck AI is good to anonymize your gpt session but very bad at math formatting

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    Nah I’m gonna use my free account to prompt a bunch if inane shit to drive up operating costs while poisoning their training data

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    I’ve never used it. I play around with a local installation sometimes, that’s the extent of my experience with AI.

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      Not sure if it works like that.

      Just from using their platform you’re giving them value, at least in the form of data.

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        Not to mention, LLMs are very resource intensive to run. They slurp up obscene amounts of electricity and water. That’s kind of a problem for a planet that’s already getting boiled.

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    I’ve been a long time user and subscriber of ChatGPT plus. It has helped me tremendously and I probably wouldn’t be where I am without it.

    I canceled mt subscription recently. I won’t continue to give money to ClosedAI. There are alternatives.

    Sam Altman can burn in hell.

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      Mind if I ask how it’s helped you along? My lil bro used it to do basically all of his college work LMFAO. He also uses ai screening tools to make sure he changes shit enough that the professor doesn’t catch it, well one day he screened a assignment from the professor and it was flagged as AI produced LMFAO

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        I have memory issues (it’s a brain issue) and struggle to do some basic things, but higher order thinking is natural for me. So ChatGPT does the things I struggle with, I review it and then use that information for my bigger goals. I got a lot done last year because of chatgpt, and rn I’m on the last leg of the project. I spent a few years trying to complete the project alone and didn’t get far because of the memory issues.

        How ai is used is dependent on the user itself. Some people just don’t want to put effort like your brother, some people have disabilities or other issues that prevent them from doing bigger things they’re otherwise capable of doing.

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        For honesty, recent example from me:

        I bought about a dozen epub comics. They were formatted with a hardcoded 600x450 width or so, maybe expecting a particular device. Having recently worked with epubs to format my own (word) book, I knew the format, and basically wanted to use Python standard library tools to unzip them, rip out some useless sizing/styling code (from hundreds of XHTML files), and zip them back up.

        I hadn’t used Python professionally in a few years, so this was an annoying back and forth to work out the process and remind myself of syntax, especially considering this was something I was just doing for a few of my own books. Instead, taking every important piece of this puzzle/process I’d researched, I instead described the problem to ChatGPT, specifically pointing it to the Python standard libraries I wanted to use. It gave me a one-page program that was mostly complete and I only needed to change in a few areas.

        I don’t think I’d ever pay money to AIs for a variety of reasons. I take that assistance as it comes, and could live without it.

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        I personally use AI to help me with my work. I used to work in an IT repair facility where I would use an LLM to help me troubleshoot problems. For example if a computer won’t turn on and the motherboard is flashing and beeping, asking an LLM is 10x faster than having to use the internet to hunt for a user manual of one specific model of computer from 40 years ago, made by a brand which no longer exists.

        Now I work in Computer Games Development after getting my degree. AI is extremely useful for helping me come up with ideas, making prototypes, and even generating small amounts of code in C++ and C#, which is what I mainly use. Games Dev isn’t difficult. I can do it myself. But it can be very tedious. That’s why AI is so helpful.

        As for what your little brother does, i’ve experienced that. People generating code and having no idea what it does. It might help you pass your subjects in school, but it’s only gonna screw you over in the long run.

        I don’t mind people using AI to help them with their work as long as they don’t depend on it.

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          I don’t understand the down votes on this comment. What you have said seems reasonable

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            Probably because it challenges the narrative of people who automatically hate all AI no matter what. I have even had colleagues argue with me that certain types of AI “aren’t actually AI” because they have too much pride and ego to admit they use the very thing they claim to hate.