• GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
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    27 days ago

    and this is why my security system will never connect to the Internet.

    I’ve had cops ask for my footage before that sneer at me sending them the raw files. “why can’t you just pull up the app?” or my favorite, “you should use ring, then we can just send a request to them for the footage.”

    sure, pig. sure. I’ll open my home as a part of your distributed network surveillance botnet. /s

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      27 days ago

      It is surprising how difficult most camera companies have made it to avoid their subscription services.

      Multiple companies that used to offer local rstp streaming have summarily removed support in firmware upgrades without notifying their customers. Even companies that support it (like Foscam) demand developer agreements be signed to get basic camera command information. Tp-link supports rstp but requires an phone app and Internet connection to configure their cameras.

      Like you, I will never connect my cameras to the Internet, but we are slowly approaching a time when that by itself will be a cause for police investigation.

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          I learned about VPNs and torrenting thanks to corporations like EA releasing trash with a price tag on it, suppose I’ll start reading up on low voltage security systems so I can build my own, thanks for the tinkering idea fascists 👍

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      27 days ago

      you should use ring, then we can just send a request to them for the footage."

      YIKES, thats whats called a weird flex.

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      27 days ago

      Something happens Americanly in America

      Americans: “What are we, a bunch of üntermench asians???”

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          My man, this is literally what they just did. This isn’t an strawman. Atleast google the meaning of your catchphrase ffs

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            They were talking about the Chinese government and you turned that into “asians”.

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            27 days ago

            “Nice Strawman” is basically a bumper sticker slogan for people who don’t actually understand what’s being discussed.

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      27 days ago

      just without the hope in the future, investment in human capital, rise in living standards etc…

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      26 days ago

      The same reason this administration does all the things they point their finger and accuse everyone else of doing. They’re traitorous scumbags and hypocrites.

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      25 days ago

      Their problem with China is the supposed atheism, and that they’re not christian fundamentalists.

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      26 days ago

      If we cant beat 'em, join 'em

      (But only learn all the bad things. Renewable Energy and Clean Transit? Nah, can’t let the plebs have a tiny bit of good things)

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    27 days ago

    It’d be a shame if anonymous types started working on poisoning all publicly accessible cameras with ai poison pills that brick whatever model you try to run on the footage

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      I read that glow in the dark material will trigger an ir motion sensor. So don’t plant small flags coated with glow in the dark paint across from the cameras because it will cause them to take and send thousands of useless images and make them think their camera is broken.

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        I work in security engineering, including massive video systems. With any unit made in the last 5 years and any software past entry level consumer grade this is a non-issue. Especially if someone is using descriptive visual search when pulling up video vs just scanning through every motion event.

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          As far as I’m aware these are basically just trail cameras, they snap a photo on motion and send it over mobile data to be processed server side for ocr. They claim they can also identify make and model and anything different like bumper stickers. I wouldn’t be surprised if their object recognition is just people in India. I also suspect that their OCR is, or at least was provided through 3rd party api calls.

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            You’d be surprised how much can be done at the edge with current cameras. I’m not sure exactly how these particular ones are set up, but the other major players in the space (Axis,Bosch,Panasonic) all have pretty surprising levels of local compute dedicated to “AI”, and leveraging external VMS platforms can exponentially increase capabilities. It’s pretty idiot proof once set up, as it’s aimed at desk jockies that monitor and report with minimal systems training.

            Again, not this specific system but this stuff is far from sci-fi anymore.

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          You’re assuming competence is part of the equation. Some passive resistance of the operators could make this viable.

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        Or, they’ll just develop downstream garbage filters and effectively ignore the little flags. Sure, some energy will be wasted, but it won’t be occupying too many analyst brain cells.

        Source: I have such a setup at home. My camera goes crazy detecting motion in the dark, CPU usage goes up. Main thing I notice? CPU temp rises from 50C to 55C. That’s it.

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            Might give them trouble in pre-dawn hours, might not depending on the design. I doubt the municipalities and government agencies pay much of anything for data usage.

            Fun fact, most places the department of transportation pays nothing for the electricity that runs street lights - electric company just gives it to them unmetered - in exchange for good and valuable consideration like right of way usage.

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        Most of them will trigger from reflected IR, which is easy to do with some metallic mylar. Those emergency blankets cut into strips should work like a charm.

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          That requires an IR source. The glow in the dark might trigger without an external IR source. So depends on the capabilities of the system in question. Some have active IR scene illuminators, some are passive.

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            It’s been a while since I did that sort of thing, but from what I remember: The vast majority of “night vision” cameras are active IR, or sensitive enough that proper reflective surfaces trigger activity if they change a large enough area.

            And the type of imagery these searches are looking for, would most likely be fooled by a couple of reflective strips blowing in the wind. Although I might recommend using strips of that reflective stuff on safety vests, that way you’d really “poison the pool”.


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            Don’t tape the strips across the street. Hang them nearer the camera so they occupy a larger area of the footage and triggers more easily. Although not on/close to the lens, that will make them notice too soon. You can even just tape a stick on top of the camera that goes up like a fishing rod, with some strands of fishing wire to reflect light in the moisture that condenses(basically a fake spiderweb).

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      26 days ago

      “… I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic …”

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    Green high powered lasers, they can burn cmos sensors. Also the iPhone and some car lidar sensors can burn cmos sensors.

    Not the question is if the Flock plate readers are susceptible to this.

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      They use a basic ir sensor to trigger the camera, they’re just a cheap trail camera that sends images when motion is detected. You could put a black sticker over the ir sensor and then they would be wondering why it’s not taking photos.