• deranger@sh.itjust.works
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    9 days ago

    Ban smartphones makes about as much sense as ban drugs or ban guns. It does nothing to address root causes and will do little to change anything for the better. Societal issues take more than “make X illegal”.

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        7 days ago

        This is obviously true in the strictest sense, but I don’t think it’s going to have the desired effect you want in the long run. How’s the War on Drugs working out? It’s been going for 54 years, so I assume it’s about wrapped up now, drugs aren’t an issue, black market is choked out, and society is better off.

        Firearms restrictions will be enforced unequally; it will be used as a pretense to further persecute minorities. Those with money will simply hire private security contractors who can jump through the legal hoops to get whatever they want. The majority of shootings in the US are related to drugs and other illegal activities that have logistics channels to get guns just as easily as drugs or exploited people. Guns are durable and the demand exists. They’re not going anywhere.

        The gun problem in the US is not the cause of our woes, it is the symptom. “Make X illegal” is the laziest form of government and it’s just granting them more power which will be abused eventually.

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    9 days ago

    Smartphones are fine, it’s just a small computer that can make calls and is connected to the internet. You’re using it wrong.

    If people can’t control themselves or their kids, it’s not my problem.

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        It’s a lot of problems that I would never solve on my own, and both politicians and citizens don’t want to change: social media and AI are destroying humans, shitty parents dont want to take care of their kids, and climate change is destroying the world. It’s inevitable but the smartphone that I use is not responsible.

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    9 days ago

    This is literally not a problem with smartphones, the problem is about the software you decide to run on it. A smartphone is simply a very powerful pocket computer.

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      I agree, except that we are legally not allowed to control the software on our phones in lots of cases. Notifications, ads, upgrades, etc. are all controlled by the manufacturer and it’s illegal to override their software on the device you own.

      Add to that that specific pieces of software are becoming increasingly necessary to function in society, and you start to see that it’s not really a matter of individual choice, anymore than people shopping at walmart can be blamed for buying processed, sugary foods when that’s 90% of what walmart stocks (And all they promote), and walmart is the only affordable option in their community.

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        I’ve been able to turn off notifications for anything on my phone. Only the few apps I choose to allow still give me notifications.

        I am fortunate to have a job that does not require a cell phone, I can leave it behind for hours at a time without affecting my work. I know this is not the case for everyone, but it should be an option.

        At the very least, a phone required for work should have a separate phone number and email account, and should turn off automatically after the employee clocks out for the day. Some countries already have laws about this stuff, we should do that more.

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    Ehhhh no.

    I can get behind “ban spying on me.”

    I can even get behind “ban social media, especially the kind that makes you sell yourself, though pseudononymous link aggregators are less the issue.”

    But “no more torrenting at work, no more reading digitally while pooping, no more encrypted chats, now have to carry a book, a camera, an mp3 player, my GBC, and a dumb phone, just to make up for the phone?”

    No.

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    How about no. I’ve been wanting a pocketable “do everything” device since I got a Tiger Electronics PokeDex as a kid. Don’t take this away from me.

    How about better regulations on the obscene amount of data collection going on behind our backs? I can’t count how many times I’ve come across even just websites that have a giant “accept all cookies” button, but in order to reject any, you have to dig through layers and layers of “settings”. The most I’ve seen was 80+. And that’s just websites.

    I’m about to wipe my phone and go all-in on Calyx OS.

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    No. Smartphones convicted the murderer of George Floyd. Smartphones have shown to the world the police brutality that happens at peaceful protests. Technology isn’t inherently evil, it’s how its used.

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      Smart phones are just pocket computers. Up to you how their used, good evil neutral it’s all at ur fingertips.

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    9 days ago

    Author admits smartphones are ubiquitous, and doesn’t at all consider, in a hypothetical situation where everyone unanimously agreed to stop using them, where all this e-waste will go?

    Also, how do you disillusion the millions of people that use them religiously?

    I get the sentiment, but only a significant technologically literate society would really appreciate the need for greater control over their devices and actually possess the skills needed to modify and configure them.

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      9 days ago

      Current smart phones will become e-waste either way. On that front, the benefit would be forcing all manufacturers to stop creating more e-waste for the future.

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    9 days ago

    If you ban smartphones you better make a better replacement portable pc in the palm of my hand then.

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    I’m perfectly fine switching back to a “feature phone” aka dump phone that takes phone calls and sends texts. If it also could be used as a music/podcast playiner, that’d be great too.