As a historian, I’ve studied the major consumer boycotts of history. We can take down ChatGPT and send a powerful signal to Silicon Valley, says author and historian Rutger Bregman
LOL like I pay for any of this stuff?
Ikr, bitches be crazy
LOL, oh cuz that went so well for Twitter? Fuck ai
I think it’s optimistic to think they would even care about a boycott now. By volunteering to cross the lines that Anthropic wouldn’t cross, they’ve achieved Military Industrial Complex status. It doesn’t matter if you don’t pay for a subscription, you’ll fund them with your tax dollars whether you want to or not. Their mass surveillance tools are too valuable to let them fail, so they’ll get propped up and bailed out no matter what.
Every additional customer using their product currently causes them to lose money, hand over fist.
You should still boycott them anyway though, they care about user numbers and user activity.
Not all GPT users are American/residing in America
Well, shit.
That is assuming OpenAI‘s tools are actually that powerful and useful or that Altman can keep convincing the US government they are. I would say it‘s still a very fragile enterprise.
I still wouldn‘t bet against the AI market anymore. Because even though the bubble must burst eventually the US government would intervene. There is no free market, just oligarchs enriching themselves all the way to he top.
People actually pay for ChatGPT? I am completely out of the loop lol. Maybe thats a good thing.
I’m a software developer for a small company with the two owners being the engineers and they have a Copilot subscription. It saves you countless man hours.
Looking up documentation is very rare now as it’s consumed that much data. It’s not perfect but it’s not we are vibe coding either it’s more like intellisense n steroids. We have lots of practices for how we do things and it learns from that context.
I wouldn’t pay for it for personal use but business use it’s actually great for us.
I’m a senior full stack software dev for over 20 years and I still search and use stack overflow links the same way as always. fuck your copilot licenses. they are not necessary and any productivity gains they bring are more than negated by the social and environmental impact from data centers and AI fueled job losses.
Already done. Both because they are a corrupt company run by legendary grifter SCAM ALTMAN. But also because GPT is inferior to Claude in almost every way. Even Gemini is leaps ahead of GPT at this point.
This is such a bleak time for tech enthusiasts.
It really feels like every single major tech company is making either absolutely moronic or completely evil choices
You are just stuck choosing between different flavors of shit
Their only interest is profit, it was only a matter of time for that interest to consolidate into corruption and greed. In a world where making choices that benefit all do not generate as much short term gains as making choices that benefit a select few, it is easy to see exactly why these companies operate the way they do. Their interests are not ours.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely. We should have regulated tech (and hard) decades ago. Were Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg not example enough for tech enthusiasts, or now that it’s too late is it the right time to shed our naive fairy tales about the Billionaire Supermen who want nothing more than to save us all?
I guess we need to dip in retrotech
Its a major opportunity for the FOSS community. We need to step up.
Proprietary tech does completely suck though. Its all driven by capital.
Hardware is going to move to streaming. They want your hardware in a server farm and they eventually won’t let people buy hardware. That’s the future.
It’s coming…
The time for people to be going all out with anger was probably 2001. They basically already won and are in complete control of America in an evil way. Including the FBI and military.
I don’t understand why people (myself included) are still participating in their games and culture. We are cogs in their evil machine.
It’s blatantly obvious it’s over already.
I dropped out and plan on dropping out further, not rich but I did at least make some money out of this shit system but I am done done, I’ll work but not for these pedophiles
I should have been angrier about tech when I was 5.
Never too late. the idea that it’s past time only benefits the big tech
We can stop using their services, move to open source, stay with older hardware (so that they don’t get money from us) and promote the few open hardware projects
Exactly what I was thinking. If I were to be angry enough about this when it actually mattered and I could have steered the boat, I was way too young too even see that it was happening.
Not to say I don’t actively pursue and promote OSS all the time, but I feel like the impact is so much more minimal than it could have been.
Even foss is under attack. Linux (amongst other OS) are being forced to comply with integrating OS-level age verification checks, which means invading privacy and contributing to mass surveillance.
People have been arrested for developing end-to-end encryption too.
Hello! You’ve been visited by the bullshit gnome, I’ve just come to say: Bullshit!
Or both
Often both
You are just stuck choosing between different flavors of shit
Or self-hosting your shit. Or at least find a friend who does…
True, but getting more expensive to do so by the day because of these AI companies.
Fair point, no argument here! Can’t wait for it all to implode, I’ve got a shopping list ready for when it does :)
It sucks even more to be a tech worker, your job is constantly threatened by automation, but you also hate working for an evil company that does not care about you, but good luck finding a non evil company that pays 6 figures
This is such a bleak time for tech enthusiasts.
Yeah, they’re really hurtin’. Hang on, I’m gonna set up a GoFundMe page for them real quick…
Cancelled 2 days ago. Feel terrible for not doing it sooner.
Just out of curiosity: what value did you get from a subscription that made it worth it before?
You’ll be glad you quit when you did. ChatGPT is rotting people’s brains.
I would but I use codex for coding
Pathetic.
And keep in mind that Anthropic is just as pro-war and morally bankrupt as OpenAI; the only difference is they didn’t donate as much to the Trump coffers.
and also not Musk’s Grok and not Google’s Gemini and of course not the Chinese DeepSeek so what do we use then?
Preferably just our brains, but if not that, then perhaps somebody running an open model. DuckDuckGo and Proton both have “their own” options, and people with good enough hardware can run something locally too.
I know duckduckgo rely on Microsoft bing for search results so I was assuming the AI is from ChatGPT?
I just looked now at their chatbot and they offer dififerent options most are based on OpenAI’s GPT (which even if self hosted, still relying on OpenAI). one other option based on Meta’s Llama and Calude.
Only reasonable option seems to be Mistral Small 3 which /u/horseloaf seem to suggest as well.
I’ll give it a try
I don’t have any experience with them yet, but I was looking at a kagi search subscription and that comes with AI usage from different models. Could be an option?
Mistral.ai Le Chat has the appearance of being more responsible and is offering open source models. I’m making no claims on their behalf, though.
Thanks, I’ll give it a try
I second this Mistral is great. I made the switch, not going back.
All US big tech feudal lords are helping the Fascist US regime. Even Antrophic. Boycott them all…
I recommend moving over to Mistral.
A European, non-fascist option.I made a similar comment on this thread but I’m back-tracking now I’ve read about Marc Andreessen.
Back tracking or side stepping?
What are you moving to?I just don’t know now…
Bankrolled by Andreessen-Horowitz three times (2023, 2024, 2025), might depend on your definition of fascism.
According to billionaire tech investor Marc Andreessen, AI is good, fascists are saints, and anyone who stops rich people like him from funding, deploying, and doing whatever they want with tech is a literal murderer.
If you are not putting in effort to boycott anything and everything attached to American culture and lifestyle, you are an enemy of humanity. (Slight dramatization)
I can’t believe this actually has to be said. “Stop funding the death star!” Who the hell is actually paying for a tier subscription for that slop?
People just really don’t give a shit at all do they lmao
And so is every other cent invested into any US tech company. This also includes watching a single ad on YouTube. So stop with those boycotts, if I have no other choice but to use those services on a daily basis.
You guys can afford subscriptions? I just make it toil for no reason because I’m a real capitalist
