Sounds like NGOs taking care of what should be the core job of any governmean - ensuring that people are supplied with stuff covering basic needs, like food.
Ban private jets
They must have forgotten what social class gets to decide what politicians do.
Cut the speed limit for ICE cars only.
We drive on electricity from our own solar panels, and we are not contributing to the fuel crisis with our house whatsoever.
Our house is warmed by wood pellets, and we contribute electricity to the grid by about twice what we use, and drive fully electric.
So not a single drop of oil or gas is used for energy in our household.I grow my own diesel in a field, can I roll coal now?
This is such a stupid analogy, what about the situation about using electricity from my own solar panels is equivalent to either use farmland that could be used for food, or in any way equivalent to burning coal which is harmful in so many ways.
This is so far removed from the situation I describe, that it is beyond a straw man argument!!
Why so I get these moronic responses?No, I poked your argument and you wigged out.
You don’t get to go faster purely because you grew your own energy.
So the purpose of the idea is irrelevant?
Because making an EV go slower does not serve the purpose, but is actually contrary to it.
Because it doesn’t stimulate people to abandon ICE cars.You are a weird unpleasant person that want to make life worse for people for no good reason.
Actually, you’re wrong because its worse for EVs. Their most economical speed is usually city speed. Diesel cars geared for highway do better there than in town.
If we followed your rules you’d be stuck going 45mph.
Edit: I’m just going to ignore you being shitty. Just because an argument isn’t going your way doesn’t make me unpleasant, it makes you a look like a dip.
Speed limits are for safety, too. One reason I favour them - I use the bicycle all the time and it makes my transport safer for me and other cyclists. And, more people using bikes means more spare capacity in public transport which matters a lot for people which are too old, too ill, or need to go long distances. With driving slower, you help that transition.
Also, speed limits make electric cars more affordable for those fellow citizens which so far couldn’t afford to buy one, since driving at lower speed needs substantially less power and thus battery capacity and performance, which is one of the costliest aspects of an electric vehicle.
I never claimed there shouldn’t be speed limits for safety for all cars.
We drive on electricity from our own solar panels, and we are not contributing to the fuel crisis with our house whatsoever.
Well, I am riding a bike. Does that give me the right to piss on your lawn? I think no.
Regarding the fuel and carbon stuff, we are all in this crisis that means we need to invent a sustainable way of living. Like travelers on a sinking boat, we should all try hard to keep it afloat.
If you are riding a bike you aren’t really helping, but maybe you mean bicycle?
So how would you feel it was justified if you were only allowed to drive 10-15 km/h on your bicycle, to help solve the oil crisis? Obviously it would have zero effect, and be completely moronic.
In the exact same way it is moronic to slow down EV traffic to save fuel, it is on the contrary necessary to stimulate people to switch to EV even faster, to save more on fossil fuels.And how the fuck has it got anything to do with pissing on anyone’s lawn? That’s a completely moronic argument that doesn’t make the least bit of sense.
we should all try hard to keep it afloat.
And how are we not doing that, investing almost all our money to use sustainable energy?
Why do you want to punish the people who actually went in 100% to use renewable energy, instead of putting the limitations on the cars that use fossil fuel?Go piss in a corner, you apparently want to.
So how would you feel it was justified if you were only allowed to drive 10-15 km/h on your bicycle, to help solve the oil crisis?
The thing is that when I use a bicycle, I do not put a burden on other people, or the community, or expose others to deadly risks. But you do when you drive a car, and that gives society the right to restrict its use, for example in terms of speed. Even when your car is electric, it exposes others to risk of accidents, particulate matter that causes pulmonary problems, dissuades others from using a bicycle in the city, and so on.
And apart from that, I wouldn’t participate in online discussions where I get the impression that people are trolling. It is interesting how often that happens when the discussion comes to things that might even slightly affect the interests of the car industry or the fossil industry. It is as if these industries know that they cannot win any reasonable and rational discussion, and resort to astroturfing and trolling instead. Just to make you aware of these patterns.
Regarding the fuel and carbon stuff, we are all in this crisis that means we need to invent a sustainable way of living. Like travelers on a sinking boat, we should all try hard to keep it afloat.
Which is not banning private jets and slowing down ICE cars. The global contribution to polllution of cars is about 70%, the one of the aviation trnasportation is 2% (there are about 100.000 fly a day) and I’d say that in this 2% the private jets are a really small number of the total, so banning private jets maybe give you a 0.05%, not worth the trouble (even if everything helps of course).
Lowering the speed of ICE cars don’t really help, I am not that sure that more time on the road at a lower speed produce less pollution. Safety is another question but you have not it by lowering only the ICE cars (it helps of course)
A better solution would be to mandate working from home for everyone who can, far less car on the roads.
You won’t really benefit as the road will be filled with slower traffic. Having to pass people constantly isn’t ideal. Speed cameras won’t be able to distinguish EVs and ICE so you’ll be going to court a lot to get tickets dismissed. Safer and simpler to have one speed limit.
Of course I will, this is about high speed roads, and they have multiple lanes, and slower traffic is not allowed to block the faster lanes.
Car free Sundays!
A UK government spokesperson said: “UK airlines are clear that they are not currently seeing a shortage of jet or road fuel. We know people value their hard-earned holidays, especially as summer approaches, and we are working closely with industry to keep flights operating and help airlines plan ahead.
This must be the person who responds to the UK Petitions website, as I swear they have literally no reading comprehension - like they’re an obstinent child that absolutely knows better.
It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that fuel being used while no fuel is coming in will result in a shortage - the idea behind cutting fuel use is to try to delay it long enough that Trump fucks off with operation fuck his ally’s oil supplies.
“While we are not planning to change motorway speed limits, and private aviation accounts for a small proportion of total fuel use, our contingency plans include all options for fuel prioritisation if needed.”
Watch this space, there will be a shortage, holidays will end up being cancelled, and when that happens could someone please throw these words back into the Government’s face. They could’ve tried but chose not to.
Restrict private car use would really help saving on fuel usage too, and has been done before in some places when there is a fuel crisis.
Make buses free to use for all, ban all car journeys under 20 minutes (largely unenforceable, but it needs to be done), reduce subsidies on fuel and instead subsidise bicycles, micro mobility and accessible mobility, build bike lanes and safe pavements, allow zoning of more retail inside residential areas so cars are needed less day to day, encourage late hours retail, turn parking spaces into green spaces.
These policies would lead to cleaner air, hit our environment goals, less dependence on foreign fuel supplies, greener spaces, healthier population, therefore taking the strain off the NHS. It’ll create jobs as there will be more evening retail jobs, building infrastructure always improves the job market, and none of this is difficult to implement, none of it is costly, and all of it benefits the entire population of the country, not just London or the wealthy.
Banning all car journeys under 20 minutes would not only be unenforceable (people will just make their journeys a little longer) and unpopular, but also superfluous and even counterproductive given the other measures that would make said journeys unappealing to begin with.
Make buses free to use for all, ban all car journeys under 20 minutes (largely unenforceable, but it needs to be done),
Easy with a bit nudging: Don’t provide residential parking space on public ground within less than 10-15 minutes walking distance from the home. Except for disabled people.
That’s a recipe from Hermann Knoflacher who worked as traffic planner in Vienna and helped to make Vienna a lot more friendly to pedestrians and public transport users.
