• NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 month ago

    The majority of datacenters and datacenter power consumption are not for AI. Before AI no one cared about datacenters. Still no one cares about datacenters that already existed and make up the majority of datacenters. I don’t understand it. Is this just manufactured outrage?

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      1 month ago

      People hate data centers because they are being forced into our communities without our consent. Consent. Consent.consent

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        1 month ago

        Most datacenters are not in urban communities they are in industrial zones.

        You also don’t need the consent of other people to build things on land you own. Get out of here with this shit.

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          You do need consent from other people…. That’s the whole point of zoning laws…… which is half the reason why there’s a housing crisis…. I’m a real estate agent and a real estate developer and have been for two decades so I don’t need your childish little fucking opinion on shit. Always some libertarian moron trying to pretend like laws don’t exist everywhere.

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            1 month ago

            Yeah you need the consent of the council for planning permission. Not the consent of the individual people.

            I am not a libertarian either, but whatever.

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              Well, you’ve kind of missed the basis of a democracy. You the individual person cast a vote for your council person, right? Usually when we have town council meetings regarding real estate development, individual people do show up and scream.

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                I wouldn’t know. I haven’t been to a town council meeting before.

                Would a town council even be involved in an industrial zone which might not even be part of a town?

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                  Industrial zones are defined by the town council! You should go some time. I used to develop weed grows. Everyone shows up and acts like you’re gonna sell their grandkids drugs. It’s great.

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                    1 month ago

                    In my country weed isn’t legal. I get what you are saying though. NIMBYs are a problem everywhere. Which makes me wonder why you are saying that these data centers can build wherever. Surely if democracy and local government works as well as you say it does they wouldn’t be able to build anything that big without the say so of the local people, no?

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                1 month ago

                Thinking democracy actually works and the representatives actually care about the people is very wishful thinking. From my experience they don’t and they haven’t for a long time.

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            1 month ago

            If you need the consent to build them then how are they being forced on communities without consent? You are contradicting yourself now.

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              Clearly you’ve never been to a heated town council meeting over the development of a small duplex. Grow up and participate in your local government?

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        1 month ago

        What do you want me to put together? Why don’t you just come out and say what you mean instead of beating around the bush?