Let them cook we need more competition
Its only a matter of time untill a gaming pc made out of Chinese architecture components is legally considered by the US to be a weapon of mass destruction.
Not much needs more than a 4060
Can confirm. I’m still rocking a 1070 Ti on a 1440 monitor and it more than meets my needs, granted I’m playing somewhat older AAA games. Looks like a 4060 is even better.
Without depending on many externalities.
Nvidia’s middle finger to China is the reason they’ve developed open weight models like Qwen 3.6 27B that have modest compute requirements with performance catching up to frontier models. They have plenty of motivation to give Nvidia the middle finger right back, and I fully anticipate that a couple years from now, we will see Chinese open models on par with frontier models while also having inexpensive Chinese hardware to run them.
Already cursor model is already built on top of kimi Chinese model. This recently leaked, oupsies
Give em a few years, and they’ll have more powerful, cheaper GPUs than anything US manufacturers can make.
As the article itself points out, drivers remain as the main issue for Chinese graphics cards. Though they seem to have made great improvements compared to 2 years ago. I’m quite excited to see how they work on it further in the next few years.
I’ve been gaming on an old AM4 motherboard, a B450 that was low spec when I bought it, it’s been over five years now. I’ve been running a 4070ti on it for three years and I’d love to upgrade it but I’m not excited about Nvidia right now and there isn’t a company on the planet that seems to want to offer me an alternative. At least China is flooding us with cheaper RAM.
Did you ever upgrade the CPU?
I am also still on AM4, started with a Ryzen 2700 (non-X) and then bought a 5800X later. I also upgraded from a RX 580 to RX 6800 four years ago. No real reason to change anything since. I’m really happy with the longevity.
Yeah I started with a 1700x then a 2700x then a 5800x. I also used to have an RTX 3060ti. My daughter is currently running the 2700x with the 3060ti. I try to upgrade periodically and pass my most recent hardware to my kids. I would upgrade again soon if prices were good but they are not good.
I moved to a 9070XT from a 3070 and love it. I am a Linux gamer convert after falling in love with Steam OS. Nvidia on Linux is too much of a hassle imo. Plus my 9070XT on Linux smokes my 3070 on windows.
For a Linux user AMD is definitely better but it’s morally no different than NVIDIA. Lisa Su is all-in on AI and the Trump admin. Which is what I’m assuming they meant by saying nobody wants to sell them a new GPU.
I do not buy products based on company morals. There is almost no publicly traded company that won’t sell the consumer out in a heartbeat.
If I bought components based on company good/bad I wouldn’t even be able to build a computer.
NVIDIA - Bad, Ai bubble, oligarchy AMD - Just as bad, Nvidia coat tail rider, oligarchy Intel - Bad, poor consumer practices for years Any company making RAM- bad, participates in price fixing and only get a slap on the wrist.
The only company on this planet I will blindly buy from is Costco. The CEO said “if you change the price of the $1.50 hotdog combo I’ll fucking kill you” - good
Otherwise I just buy what I need from where I can get it and move on with my life. Even avoiding Amazon is dumb since they make most of their money from AWS which means you’d have to boycott most of the internet.
Not a fan of amd gpus?
Morally no different than NVIDIA. Lisa Su is all-in on AI and the Trump admin.
What? A baby GPU didn’t do as well as an experienced professional with decades of experience?? I am in shock -_-
I’m surprised they can’t just smuggle the chip designs and factory designs from Taiwan, they’re so close
Didn‘t expect anything less (or more) to be honest. Not at the moment. 5 years from now, though? It‘s entirely possible most new PC hardware will be made by Chinese brands that we have never heard of.
At least someone tries to compete. I’d get a slower Chinese any day over the fucking greedy nvidias. Spent 2500 for my last GPU. In 1990 I bought 2 high end computers for that. And some groceries. And go to the movies…
I’m so fed with all this. China will be the long-term winner in nearly everything.
$2,500 in 1990 is worth $6,369.93 today
Considering a PC in the 90s was not the total mainstream-thing it is today, Also i pulled that outta my ass, Don’t actually remember that old prices. BUT my first 3DFX, top of the line was like 500€. “Incredibly expensive” back then. Today you’d get some shitty entry-model for kids for 500€.
That’s not entirely true. You can’t squirrel away 1990’s $2500 and have it worth $6300 today. The more accurate statement would be that because of inflation (and also greedflation), what you once purchased with $2500, now takes $6300. This decrease in purchasing power, most recently, was brought almost entirely by price collusion, corporate greed, and a lack of regulation enforcement.
However, if you’d invested 2500 in 1990, it would be worth more than 6300.
Just as long as you didn’t have an emergency or retire in 2008 or the 10 years it took to recover
Highest month end price in 1990 vs lowest in 2009 is still 2x growth for s&p 500, which is less than 6300, but not as bad as one might think the crash was. From then on if you wait 3 years you pretty much double it again.
Of course the rich people who could afford to invest in 2009 have now 10x’d their investment. Most of us can’t really do that (invest during a downturn) unfortunately.
in an s&p500 index fund, a hell of a lot more.
nasdaq100… just wait a couple of months
They will improve and quickly.
Now that intel is likely out of the race, they are out last hope
it takes time to develop a tech like that.
as an example, China decided to invest in animation after Kung Fu Panda. slow process with a lot of internal movies, and a couple years ago they released the most successful animated movie in history.
Let them cook
For anyone else interested I’ve read it’s called Ne Zha 2, $2+ billion gross
Beat Zootopia 2
Intel isn’t out of the race. The Chinese gpu have mostly issue related to driver as intel had when they started and intel had igpu so it s gonna be hard for chineese one to catch back but they will
Nvidia have invested heavily in them and the writing is on the wall. We will see what happens.
Is Intel rumored to drop it’s GPU line? Haven’t really kept up to date lately.
Intel Arc has been out for a while and while it technically competes it’s not good enough or stable enough to handle the high end.
Wait a couple of years
It may take a decade but it will happen for sure
new architecture 5x in 5 years and by 2032
Wait for the next couple generations
How are they going to survive the next decade if they’re selling $200 performance for $500 man.
Uhh do you think the People’s Republic of China is going bankrupt if they don’t get better GPUs for a decade?
Or if you mean the company, they’ll absolutely receive a bunch of subsidies to keep going.
They should have used some of those subsidies to lower the price lol
I feels like if people read the first sentence there, people might realise that the headline isn’t harsh at all, the company claim the card perform like a dragon, priced like a dragon, but a test by tech channel from china proofed otherwise. If it’s $200 then the headline might be different.
The author is a chinese, no less, which probably comb chinese socmed for this news.
The tech media is showing who their sponsors are with this shit. “Oh the new guy isn’t number one right away? Better give up!” Fuck right off.
You know what? I’m going out and buying another Intel GPU out of spite.
Toms has always been clickbait. They just copy and sensationalize other headlines they find, and they’ve frequently bent the knee for Nvidia. Other outlets used to make fun of them all the time.
It’s sad they “survived” the enshittification of the internet and people keep sharing their clickbait :(
That being said, there’s some truth here.
