“If you don’t enjoy being high you’ll regret it the rest of you life” (some drug dealer)
He’s on two somethings.
I’ll have a Sundar Pichai on a brioche bun with mustard and onions, please.
LLMs are really good at avoiding direct answers and spitting out words in sensible order that has absolutely no meanings.
You know who’s also good at it? CEOs. Replace CEOS.
LLMs are really good at avoiding direct answers and spitting out words in sensible order that has absolutely no meanings.
Spoken like someone who has never used one. I guess this is the place where you can make laughably indefensible comments as long as it fits the vibe.
Well, they’re undeniably good at it. Not saying that it’s the only thing they do or they’re good at.
I can see how LLMs can read better than you, for instance.
Spoken like a technozealot.
Sounds like a threat.
“These graduates are actually both going to be a big part of driving that progress and also dealing with the impact,” he added, referring to AI.
Out of context it sounds like a threat, but in connect it just sounds like vacuous CEO-speak, designed to respond to the question with some words while not actually answering the question.
designed to respond to the question with some words while not actually answering the question.
Ok, I see why they are so enamored of LLM chat…
Vacuous CEO speech is almost always a threat.
People are out here still rooting for the circus ring master when we have known for decades now that they’re beating and enslaving the elephants, tigers, and crew alike, while splitting what the pick pockets get from the crowd while everyone enjoys the show.
Great name for a band though.
I think he meant the people booing are the ones making the threat to Pichai.
In that case, carry on.
Someone should Luigi this guy
Luigi is an automatic upvote. Innocent though he may be. Which he is, innocent. I’m serious, the cops are full of shit, on everything, a manifesto? Gtofo of here, we all wrote that shit after, because health insurance is the devil.
Do you side with Jesus or the Devil?
I side with plumbers
Although satisfying it wouldn’t really solve anything. They would just elect another CEO. They’re all exactly the same anyway.
You want to really make a change you burn down the data centres, that would really hit them where it hurts.
I mean, they’d run out of people willing to do the things that inspire French revolutionary style ideas eventually. But no, it’s probably not a feasible solution.
Too reactive to really work. Efforts to prevent fuck shits like this from getting into positions of disproportionate privilege and power in the first place are needed. Good luck with that in a capitalist system though.
All the supposed top education developed Pichai and it failed. He still believes in the completely fucked up Caste System which leads to his view on AI. He wants to keep the lower class and make sure it remains that way.
Summon the plumber
It sounds like a vague threat.
Fucking delusional. I’m betting their “AI” will never live up to the promises, good or bad.
It’s all hype to keep investors pouring in money in the hopes that the endless stream of money can fund the development of what they promise and tell us to fear.
It’s a classic scam. “Big return, we promise. We’ll strike oil soon, we just need more money.”
No.
These graduates, and the incoming generation, won’t shape LLM’s and GenAI. Limpdick, loser fucking nerd billionaires will.
The kids will be left with scraps, by design, and that’s the problem.
I’d like this guy to run for city counsil.
These folks just don’t get it.
Let’s put aside the discussion of whether their enthusiasm for the tech is merited or not, that is beside the point.
A commencement speaker is not there to talk about themselves or their favorite things. They are not there to teach the graduates anything or try to debate with the graduates.
A commencement speaker is there to honor and respect the graduates. To commend them on how far they have come and express optimism for what they will bring to society in the future. To make them feel appreciated for all they have done and are about to do. To feel inspired by what they have accomplished and the possibilities they bring to society. There has been and will be plenty of opportunity to educate, debate, and convince them, but this is not the venue for any of that.
Speaking about how “awesome” AI is and how they should be grateful for it is disrespecting them by failing to let them be the focus of their own graduation.
it’ll be hilarious when all this shitware collapses in on itself under the weight of the actual costs.
And the actual costs are starting to hit https://thenextweb.com/news/microsoft-claude-code-retreat-ai-cost
Yeah, an experienced devops can turn a max claude code subscription into a credible position or two. You give it a directory full of indexed md’s and access to your playbooks and it’s really good at understanding your logs and using saveguarded tools you write for it.
But those data-centers full of the most advanced purposed built machines are expensive AF, and the tech is moving so fast, those boxes from 2 years ago are already too inadequate.
When the seed capital is gone and the ventures all want their payday, the banks aren’t going to foot the bill.
AI is here to stay, but the cutting edge will continue become more exponentially more expensive while still only being incrementally better than humans. Sans some amazing breakthrough, it’ll price itself out the the market.
while still only being incrementally better than humans
That’s only true in some extremely rare use cases.
well put.
my only question is how many years of this shit will we need to survive until they realize: there’s no such thing as a free lunch? yeah, you can get agentic systems working with accuracy and precision, but will it ever be a panacea to dev costs that justify the trillions - TRILLIONS - of dollars invested for the paltry billions of profit?
how many years of this shit will we need to survive
That’s largely dependent on the “trillionaires” negotiation with the banks. Some of the data centers are already having trouble getting funded.
FWIW, if you REALLY want this shit to stop, push legislation to tax the fuck out of the data centers. They’re only building them because of the huge return on investment, tax them in real time on what that return looks like. I think a state and federal tax rate above 40% would greatly slow down this bullshit and get some stuff paid for that we actually need. No hiding behind ‘losses’. That Equipment gets taxed locally at market value and the warehouse+water+electric hookups are taxed at such rates that the utilities can expand what is necessary without fucking over the residents.
FWIW, if you REALLY want this shit to stop, push legislation to tax the fuck out of the data centers.
fuckin’a
Also to rouse and inspire them.
“I’m working on a machine that will make you guys redundant, and then I’ll make those booing me see. l’ll make you all see.” is hardly going to do that.
He would be much better off talking about how it was the stuff of science fiction not long ago, and how the graduates would be helping to push humanity forward, and make real things that were previously considered impossible.
Some of the talks are also just really bad. I’ve seen a few, and they’re little more than ads, or bragging about a thing the institution is doing that’s unrelated to the graduates themselves. Saw one where the speaker was talking about how the college was using AI for various things. Why even have that in the graduates’ speech?
the “Some of you may die” speech by Lord Farquaad from Shrek would be too on-the-nose, tho.
“I’ve always been extraordinarily optimistic about the next generation,” he told the hosts. AI, he said, doesn’t change that. “My goal would be to share my experiences, and that’s what I’m looking to do.”
I had some money left over this month, so when I noticed my old phone seems to be bulging slightly, I decided I could splurge a little and spend just under 300€ for a decent second-hand one.
But I’m sure his experiences will apply to my situation.
I look forward to AI slop making the next group of senior software engineers make complete crap because they have no idea what good software actually is.
There’s going to be another market for consultants cleaning up these moron’s mess once again.
Well, think of the bigger picture. After 3-4 generations, there won’t even BE consultants to clean up the mess. No one will know how to code at all. It’s ALL going to be AI.
There will be consultants. Most will be charlatans with an LLM, but there will always be a small number of people who learn the craft because they’re interested… and they will command high salaries by those who understand quality engineering.
It’s not like this is the first time our society has done this. We did it to textiles, then we did it to farming in general.
The difference here is that automation of thought is what’s being promised, but that’s not what’s being delivered. But then, for many of its applications, real thought was never needed in the first place.
Anyway, back to my actual point: manual software development will become a niche hobby like using a hand loom. The skills will survive, but more as a curiosity than a common career path.
I hope I’m wrong, but it all depends on how long it takes the bubble to burst. If the LLM companies get a critical mass of dependence before it does, this will be the result.
I’ll believe that when I see software written by an LLM in production for 5 years. The code they write can’t really be iterated upon, so any time you want to alter behavior or refactoring, you essentially have to write that section again with the new design.
Maybe that will pan out in time, but so far all I’ve seen is marketing out extremely far ahead of reality, and that’s with today’s VC subsidized pricing. It threatens to increase in price from here, and further advancement is expected by many experts to yield diminishing returns now that the training pool is exhausted.
“I’ve always been extraordinarily optimistic about the next generation,” he told the hosts. AI, he said, doesn’t change that. “My goal would be to share my experiences, and that’s what I’m looking to do.”
Oh he is going to get booed
This seems like a wonderful time to share this wonderful song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_mzYS-ET8o
oh fuck you
and your ai
fuck you elon, fuck you sam,
fuck you sundar pichai
you said the chance
that we all die is
around 1 in 5 – was that hype?
or are you really
generating genocide?
Thank you for sharing the song, that was lovely.
Quick Markdown formatting tip: In most flavours you can add 2 spaces at the end of a line to force a line break. Then you can format your block quotes a little prettier without empty newlines:
oh fuck you
and your ai
fuck you elon, fuck you sam,
fuck you sundar pichai
you said the chance
that we all die is
around 1 in 5 – was that hype?Ooh thank you… hope I remember that trick lol
