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Paywalling the API and therefore killing 3rd party apps killed reddit… banning anyone with an opinion killed reddit…
I used to have a reddit account and truly enjoyed it - but I quit when it became obvious that most of the site is simply run by bots that aim to stir the pot and divide people. I still read various reddit posts - but there is no longer any real knowledge to be gained. Mostly, I now just experience frustration, mistrust, and disappointment.
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I suppose it’s the way of so many sites: Initially, they pursue some higher goal, which attracts users. Once people start participating en masse, the focus quickly shifts and it becomes all about making money - which is fine as long as there is a balance. They lose out once the scales tip too much in the direction of profit while the initial purpose becomes more of an afterthought.
Nazi sympathizing has already ruined Reddit.
That shithole has been sanitized for advertisers, which means banning anyone who talks about resisting the fascist slide America is currently in but allows /r/conservative to exist for foreign actors to spread misinformation from.
Fuck Reddit, fuck Spez, those Nazi fucks will get what’s coming to them if we’re lucky.
It’s ruining everthing it touches. Reddit is far from the only victim of that garbage.
Did spez change his name to AI?
can’t they block accounts? fedi spoils us
They’ll just make new ones
no ; reddit is ruining reddit for everyone.
I beg to differ: spez has ruined reddit for everyone.
Not for himself, as he just joined the billionaire club. I would probably have ruined it for a billion as well, if I’m being completely honest.
Wait till those he sold it to find out that the membership numbers are full of people who have been permabanned and won’t ever see their ads.
That’s when things started going off the rails yes. Remember Victoria and the good ol days?
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nah reddit is fine for loads of things
better than lemmy in fact but then it has FOUR orders of magnitude more active users
Reddit was one of the most human places on the Internet, until King Steven the Turd decided that it’s human interactions were a valuable resource that he could sell.
Now, it’s all just bots talking to bots to learn how to sound human.
The engagement bots constantly peppering my comments with inane remarks to draw a reaction is what drove me to Lemmy. I was there early on, and it was awesome. As its popularity grew, it became less nice, but I still enjoyed going there. In the end, I didn’t feel like commenting because I knew that I’d just get hit with stupid responses calculated to draw a response. It just felt harassing.
peppering my comments with inane remarks to draw a reaction
They’re here, too.
I occasionally see comments to the effect of, “Oh, really? Can you tell me more about that?” That seem pretty likely to just be bots trying to generate data on certain topics for AI training. Thankfully, most people seem to ignore them.
Wait, was that reply to me with a “Can you elaborate on that” comment a bot?
I occasionally see comments to the effect of, “Oh, really? Can you tell me more about that?”
Fuck. Am I a bot?
I saw a pretty good short sci-fi film a year or so ago about a woman accidentally finding out that she’s a bot.
Bro you can’t just say that and not mention the name. What was it?
Here you go
I wish I could remember. It was definitely on YT. I think it was in German with subtitles. It wasn’t long. Possibly was someone’s film school project.
Dutch actually
Different book, but try We are legion (we are Bob)
Bob only thinks hes human for about half a page?
Beep boop fellow clanker.
Digg 2.0 jumper in 2009. I always thought there would be a new Reddit after 2014. But it took 10 years for Lemmy to show up.
Now, it’s all just bots talking to bots to learn how to sound human.
No, there’s a lot of human bigotry too.
spez ruined reddit for everyone
What? What did the moderator of r/jailbait do now?
That one always rung a big hollow to me because of the timeframe of it. At the time he was made a mod there, invites didn’t exist. Folks could just be added to subs- it was actually a method for trolling. At the time, I could add Steve to r/SteveLovesDiddlingKids, for example, and he’d have no say in it. They changed it to an invite system after a subreddit called r/CrabBucket heavily abused it to force folks to stay.
That said, one can quite readily say that spez implicitly supported the jailbait subreddit when he left it up for several years knowingly (Including it being a subheader for reddit on google searches, and it getting nominated for subreddit of the year along with several votes for it.) and only got rid of it when Anderson Cooper did a report on CNN about it.
a subreddit called r/CrabBucket heavily abused it to force folks to stay.
That’s absolutely hilarious.
spez implicitly supported the jailbait subreddit when he left it up for several years
spez did not work at reddit between 2009 and 2015.
On one hand yeah in that timeframe, on the other hand it’s not like his homies weren’t there. Further, subreddits came to exist in 2006, and people could make their own in 2008, so he had a year’ish of r/jailbait existing to do anything about it, and chose not to.
I don’t especially want to be in the position of defending either spez or r/jailbait, but I was on Reddit at the time and I do think I should explain how 2008 was a different time on the web.
There had been a number of attempts to censor and age-gate the internet in the late 1990s and early 2000s. People involved in creating internet tech and building its culture were almost universally against anything that even smelled like censorship. Much of the early userbase migrated from Digg in response to Digg censoring a leaked DRM key. The only sitewide rule on Reddit was “don’t break Reddit”.
When r/jailbait finally did get banned in 2011 and Reddit’s first content policy was imposed, that decision was unpopular among Redditors even though most thought sexualizing young teenagers was disgusting. It signaled a change to what Reddit was, and people rightly feared that it would lead to significantly more restrictions. Now I have to enforce a rule on r/flashlight that people can’t sell flashlights designed to be attached to guns, and I don’t want to make or enforce such a rule.
Creepy little shit.
No, Reddit ruined Reddit for everyone. The AI slops are simply what replace the people who left.
The day they got rid of reddit gold and started cash grabbing hard was the day the writing was on the wall.
It was when they fired Victoria for me
They got rid of gold?? When?? I left reddot and came to Lemmy in the third-party apps exodus and haven’t even looked back
Ages ago - they tried to make it all these flairs and sparkles and whatever. Maybe it’s back lately?
Oh, I’ve looked back. It’s hard not to rubberneck at such a horrendous train wreck. Especially when I was just a passenger on that very train.
I left reddit during the great API massacre as well, then I went back to only be taken out by the great Trump massacre of '24 where they banned a huge chuck of the community that had any anti-trump sentiments in their profile history…because Trump threatened them.
Now I have been banned 6 more times, just by AI detecting language it doesn’t like and its catalogue of dislike only continues to grow.
They pretend that humans are reviewing ban appeals, it is clear that they are not. The AI is banning more people than they could possibly keep up with. Now, more often than not, there is no reply to ban appeals whatsoever.
Spez is a spineless coward who threw the reddit community overboard a long time ago and continues to do so whenever it suits him. Reddit exists only to shit money for him now.
It has been left twisted and corrupted in favor of the conquest for money and controlling public opinion
I’ll be back to fight the good fight just as soon as I can create a new account and switch VPNs
Wasn’t spez the pedo sub moderator?
Yeah, also the people. The comment sections are cancer. Lame jokes from dickheads that don’t add anything.
Yeah, after reading the article, it was like, oh, so the same fake stories but actually grammar corrected?
Also, most people who sre like “i have this tells tl detect AI” would not know at all whether something is AI or not lol
Reddit was ruined long ago, this just accelerates the decline.
Letting gallowboob “moderate” the basically the whole front page was an insane decision. Some of those guys were selling product placement.
The centralization of power to few mods was always a problem, but smaller communities got by.
The huge quality drop came when Spez felt he missed the IPO wave around 2018 and decided to growth hack the site. Then they finally killed most of them too with the API drama.
Popular and moving away from hot to best was also bad. They horribly failed to discipline abuse from the_donald for years…
New reddit is still not even usable from a phone. It crashes frequently and i swaer to God it only shows like 8 posts and just fucking loops through them (how have thry not noticed this, I only check 4 subreddits and its unbearable).
Niche communities that simply don’t exist on Lemmy. If your only hobbies are tech, lemmy probably covers all of your bases, but there are nearly no niche non-tech communities here.
but there are nearly no niche non-tech communities here.
And if they do exist, there are 4 subscribers and zero posts in the last 6 months.
Yeah. I help mod the Washington Capitals hockey team sub, and recently I looked through every other NHL team’s sub, and we’re the ONLY ones that post game day threads. And even with us, it’s basically only one or two of us commenting on the games. Compare that to dozens or even hundreds of people commenting on every game in every team’s reddit sub.
I tried to revitalize the sens community last year during the playoffs. I haven’t been able to watch this season much because of crazy timezone differences enduring my vacation…
Yeah. Maybe I’ll see if I can get the gdt bot working again…
They did exist before reddit as forums, however they where fragmented across different languages and websites. At some point Google started to show reddit more often, because it was more search engine optimized and mobile friendly. This means new users found reddit first, and old users where slowly pulled away from their forums into reddit.
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Yeah. I’m not saying I like it or that it’s how it should be. It’s just how it is. I basically go to reddit last these days.
Can’t lie I miss r/sneakers. As an avid collector I miss the engagement
There’s also fun bullshit communities that refuse to migrate too. I listen to some of them on YouTube as they read the stories from there while I work on other things or drive.
I tried creating a community here but never got others to post their show too.
Some are pretty limited even in reddit too
Right now I don’t have a reddit account and I just lurk there, but if I really wanted to talk about, say, a specific TV show I like, or a Movie, or Anime, or a Book… that would not exist on the fediverse. It’s either just Reddit or maybe Discord.
If I wanna talk about stuff from a non-white perspective, the best place I’d really find my people outside the great firewall is Reddit.
I mean I the amount of Cantonese-speakers on Lemmy is like… single-digits
I use redlib to lurk.
I find the drama subs like /r/AITAH entertaining. I know its all fake, but the groupthink responses are intriguing.
Let’s not blame AI for everything: Reddit had a lot of problems before AI became big. Repost bots are so common that you’ll see the same posts over and over again. Some of those twitter screenshots must have been posted hundreds or thousands of times. OnlyFans spam also works without AI. And we have had those bots spamming the same stupid comments before people were even thinking about GPTs.
Repost bots should be built in to Reddit tbh
Just take whatever was the top 5 a year ago and repost it at the same time
Karma guaranteed
While I agree being shitty is a human problem, shitty people are using AI to be shitty faster.
Reddit’s founder and investors killed reddit, the method they used is immaterial.
Reddit already ruined Reddit. The AI slop is just the broken glass in the turd.
