Pardon my french, but WHAT THE FUCK OSTI DE CALISSE DE SAINT SACRAMENT DE VIARGE DE CRISSE DE SAINT CIBOIRE DE TABARNAK?!? OSTI DE MICROSLOP!!!
Fine. https://github.com/Euro-Office it is.
I think it would be appropriate to say “OSTI DE MICROSLOP A MARDE” even.
Forked from unreliable russian onlyoffice
That’s a fine reason for a fork
Beautiful language
Mon putain ami québécois 👍🏽
LibreOffice is $Free.99, y’all.
That’s a lawsuit waiting to happen. People bought a license to use a product, with the reasonable expectation that said license would be both perpetual and unchanging.
class action lawsuits pretty much only exist to enrich lawyers
While generally true, sometimes it is about the principle of it, and the only way it makes sense to address it is through class action.
If I join in on a class action suit, it’s more about making the company pay (and hopefully changing their, and others’, policy to avoid future lawsuits), than getting a check for $8.25 in the mail 3 years down the line.
ok but you recognize they wont change their policy right? they will profit more from their shitty anticonsumer policies than they’ll ever pay through class actions, may as well go full luigi if it’s about making executives pay consequences for their actions
the only way forward is organizing, nothing else will be effective
ok but you recognize they wont change their policy right?
Except that, historically, there are countless examples of class action suit resulting in large and impactful changes to entire industries.
These sites lists a few, but you can search yourself:
https://www.iveyengineering.com/class-action-lawsuits-2/
https://classactionbuddy.com/blog/famous-class-action-lawsuits-that-changed-history/
(The URL for this one does suggest that there might be some bias, however I’m pretty sure the cases listed are all real)
It’s not perfect, and probably not even close to the best way to do this kind of thing… But it can work
god these are some depressing links, first one includes roe v. wade, third one is a list of corporations doing terrible shit and those corporations are pretty much all doing the exact same shit.
this is all pure cope mate
Why do you think Roe v Wade is a bad example? It made abortion legal for like 50 years.
Sure bud, just ignore:
Brown v. The Board of Education that resulted in the desegregation of all public schools in the US.
The “Scopes Monkey Trial” is why US public schools are even allowed to teach evolution.
Tobacco Master Settlement Agreement which resulted in outlawing advertising tobacco products on billboards and during sporting events, and brought in over $200 billion to states for medical expenses related to smoking.
Both the Enron and WorldCom suits led directly to the Sarbanes-Oxley Act.
The Agent Orange suit by Vietnam vets that led directly to the Agent Orange Act of 1991.
Etc.
It seems like you think I believe that this is the best and only way for things to change, which is literally the exact opposite of what I said.
because it was rolled back? so it’s obviously not an effective form of long term change?
i’m over this argument, believe whatever you want, i dont care
may as well go full luigi
Wait, you’re telling me that’s an option that people could choose?
I wonder what the world would be like if a whole bunch of people started doing that. Could you imagine?
adventurism is not an effective method for long term change, we need to organize and work together, doing random acts of violence doesn’t really move the needle
Yeah, Microsoft is gambling that the number of users who care enough to act are too small, or won’t bother, or won’t realise they can.
This is how big corporations get away with this shit. It’s not “illegal” in the criminal sense, but it is a breach of contract between Microsoft and those affected; and they likely could win against Microsoft.
The good news is the outrage over this is probably more damaging than any settlement or long drawn out legal case even would be. It’s at just the right time as Microsoft deals with major issues and unhappiness with Windows users over poor updates, crappy feature changes to Win 11 and of course force feeding of CoPilot down every users throat, while also decimating their own staff to save money for AI and polluting their own products codebases with shitty AI generated slop. Perfect storm has hit Microsoft, and they don’t even realise how bad it is yet.
Apple users sue over everything just ask Apple, I mean they just sued and won over Apple Intelegence.
As an Apple user, I laughed at this… the one thing we all want is NOT to have Gemini or AI on our phones. I mean, if we wanted Gemini, we could just use Google & Android.
It’s crazy how once these companies get big enough, they become a cancer that just slowly self-destructs. Everything that’s going wrong in their business can be blamed solely on them. Just all around gross incompetence in the most absurd, blatant way possible. I really hope that, in the near future, we see the main opinion of Microsoft finally coming around to understanding this redundant company’s pig-brained, slop-obsessed stupidity.
Yeah. I could see them deprecating O365 hooks and services or something, but the entire suite? That’s bullshit.
Piracy is now fully justified
This is the way.
If they can just break something I’ve paid for… then it is fair for me to take it without paying
and not just for microslop products, but all megacorp products.
what one of them does reflects on the rest of them. if they wanted to, they could have lobbied for fair regulation. they didn’t, or didn’t succeed.
Why steal a moldy bread when there’s fresh bread for free? https://www.libreoffice.org/
(Also, the moldy bread is highly addictive and watches you masturbate)
If buying is not owning, then piracy is not stealing
It’s only logical
How is this even legal?
Because it’s Microsoft and whether anybody likes it or not, they’ll do whatever they want and at best, lose a few pennies.
If it is, in fact, legal, it’s because there’s a weasel clause in the clickwrap that says, in effect, “We can change this agreement in any way at any time. Not you, just us.”
Wait, did one of them actually say this?
Because legislation related to Stop Killing Games has not yet passed.
$$$
My digital life has gotten noticeably better since switching to Linux and other FOSS
How soon before they start doing this to Win10 installations?
Microslop doing Microslop things as per usual.
Honestly just use LibreOffice. It’s pretty good.
“But it doesn’t have that one function that predicts the circumference of an ant’s hind segment based on the diameter of breadcrumbs it carries! I use that every day for vital work!”
These articles go from panic bait to feel good news after you completely switch away from Microslop,
They even edited information about support, it was meant to work but they edited it to your files will be safe and openable in word 365 app
I switched to OpenOffice.org(now LibreOffice) when Microsoft replaced menus with ribbons.
And I switched from Google to DuckDuckGo after being a Google user from nearly the very beginning, because they tried to claim earlier this week that they couldn’t prove I was over 18 years old unless I provided them my legal identification.
Thanks Google, I can’t imagine how the fact that I’ve physically been using your product and logging into the account for more than 20 years would leave any question in your mind that I’m over 18 years old, but you do you.
No regrets with LibreOffice. None.
I bitched and moaned when office 2007 came out. Stupid ribbons. Still hate that shit. Only thing MS office has going for it, that I haven’t found elsewhere, is collaboration and Danish grammar check. I haven’t found proper grammar check in my native Danish yet, outside of ms office that is. But if my job decided to ditch its pricey office subscriptions, I’d be cheeringly installing libreoffice.
I do hope I get a chance to retrieve all my emails when I get shut out for raising an arthritic middle finger and telling Google to go fuck themselves when asked for ID. I got my gmail account when people still paid for invites. How can I be underage? I wasn’t even underage then.
I do hope I get a chance to retrieve all my emails when I get shut out for raising an arthritic middle finger and telling Google to go fuck themselves when asked for ID.
Just going to remind you, because I appreciated when someone reminded me: The best time to run a ‘Google Checkout’ to get a backup is now.
takeout
takeout
Fine unless the company you work for uses MS Office and you have to bring work home. In that case, the seamless compatibility is difficult to bypass.
Any organization that expects you to use your personal IT equipment for work is likely in violation of several privacy laws and incompetent.
You remind me of the time I wanted to complain about noise while I was the only guy able to do anything to reduce noise.
“It’s so loud in here!”
“Well, betanumerus, have you considered shutting the fuck up?”
I distinctly remember the conversations about Office’s phone home system and people specifically saying “this seems problematic” and Microsoft hand waving those concerns away.
it’s not the ‘phoning home’ that’s doing this. they built-in a time bomb by way of an expiring digital certificate. one that won’t get updated or replaced because the software versions in question are ‘out of support’.
Literal planned obsolescence
more like forced obsolescence, planned implies they do it in the future, but MS is forcing it now.
It was planned at the time they released it…
Well it kinda is because that certificate is needed for the phoning home. If it didn’t need to communicate at all it wouldn’t have needed an SSL certificate so there would have been nothing to expire.
“I am altering the deal. Pray I don’t alter it any further.”
Yay, that’ll be a fun day at work… I’m in charge of administering our fleet of Macs and all the users use MS Office heavily. We are currently not allowed to provide access to Office 365 for data protection reasons, so if they brick the volume license we are currently using I won’t have a viable solution for them, beyond switching to OWA/Apple Mail and some other office suite.
The writing’s been on the wall for a while though. They recently made it so that you can’t hide the Office 365 nag screen while using a volume license, which confuses users into thinking they don’t have a license. I fucking hate Microslop.
Edit: As far as I can tell this will only affect users using a 2019 volume license (which is already not compatible with current versions), but the 2021 license will continue to work? (Source: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/update-microsoft-365-or-office-on-your-macos-or-ios-device-f418ae5d-bb5f-4078-b3d9-9340f5dd084e ). I’d definitely be interested if anyone has more information. In any case, I’m sure it’s just a matter of time until they fuck everyone not using a subscription based license for any of their products.
Edit 2: Nevermind. 13th October is the day Microslop has chosen to fuck me: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/system-requirements/end-of-support-for-office-2021
You’ll still get a few years before the software becomes remotely disabled, though. This story about Office 2019 losing functionality follows Office 2019 losing support in 2023. If that’s the rate things go, then maybe Office 2021 will lose functionality either 2 years from now (7 years after release) or 3 years from now (3 years after losing support).
True, but running EOL software that doesn’t receive updates to known vulnerabilities isn’t really an option.
Yeah, but that’s always been true of paid software licenses for a particular version: it reaches EOL and you have to decide whether to live with the possibility of unpatched known vulnerabilities or pay for an upgrade to a more recent release.
MS Office has been doing this from back in the Windows 3.0 days at least.
