• sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 month ago

    … people pay for youtube?

    … you know you can just block the ads, right?

    … and you don’t need a propietary app to get youtube on a tv?

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      1 month ago

      Problem for me is that YouTube is my main source of video entertainment. I like being a part of the reason creators can get paid.

      Sure I hate giving google money, but if everyone does adblock and no one donates to creators, then there will be no quality content.

      Many creators i watch probably has a patreon or similar, but I watch so many different ones that yeah, yt premium is the easiest way for me to support while being ad free.

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        YouTube is also my main source of video entertainment.

        I am very poor, but if I wanted to help fund Youtubers, I would just donate to their patreons or ko-fis or directly purchase a channel membership to them specifically.

        You being lazy about how you support creatives you like is a choice, a choice that indicates your laziness is more valuable to you than you not giving Google money, so please don’t lie to me when you say you hate giving Google money, you obviously don’t.

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          Donating to what is ostensibly dozens of creators patrons would be not only a great deal of money but also kind of untenable to manage. If an adequate amount of YouTube subscription money goes to creators then there’s nothing really wrong with that. I wouldn’t say it’s lazy at all.

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            No, it wouldn’t, just ask them to offer lower donation amounts/tiers, if the existing tiers are too high.

            This really would not be much harder than managing an RSS feed.

            If an adequate amount of money goes to doing the math to divide what would be donations equally, after Google’s cut of course… then you are being lazy, and are fine with giving Google money.

            Would you give to a charity that had the same ‘admin overhead’ to ‘actual money put to use’ ratio as Google takes in their cut?

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              just ask them to offer lower donation amounts/tiers, if the existing tiers are too high.

              Oh yes just reach out and ask your dozens of subscriptions to modify their subscription tiers just for you, I’m sure you’ll easily be able to reach them as one of their thousands/hundreds of thousands/millions of subscribers.

              This really would not be much harder than managing an RSS feed.

              lol. lmao even.

              Would you give to a charity that had the same ‘admin overhead’

              YouTubers are not a charity. They’re businesses using the YouTube platform for the convenience it provides them despite the overhead. I’m fully justified in utilizing the same platform to support them financially for the same reason.

              • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                Ok so you’re fine with paying money to Google.

                Got it, you willingly fund an immoral corporation that’s on many different boycott lists of many different organizations, for many different reasons.

                Sure, ok then.

                I on the other hand value my moral nonhypocrisy more than you do.

                Guess we just have different preferences.

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                  No I just think you’re just an insufferable dork with a frankly privileged amount of free time on their hands to fuck about with what amounts to little more than internet virtue signaling.

                  I find no value in your hollow moral grandstanding at all and I don’t think anyone else here does either.

                  I think it’d be better for your health to value touching grass over this nonsense you’re talking about.

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    1 month ago

    The only time I ever subscribed was when I could pay in Argentina. Came out to like $3.50 per month. Once they patched that loophole, they stopped getting my money.

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      Yeah, they’re worth maybe $5 a month or family. It’s just a bunch of B-F rate videos and they pay anyone that’s not in the B tier so little than you need to support them on patreon anyway.

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    1 month ago

    It’s $3/month more than Spotify, and you get both music and videos. That doesn’t seem that bad to me? Tidal is probably a better deal though, since it’s cheaper and all plans come with lossless (FLAC).

    I’ve been using a Plex server with my own ripped CDs for a while. Jellyfin is good too. If you listen to the same music a lot of the time, why pay a monthly fee when you can just buy the album once, rip it to your server, and listen to it forever?

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      Cheaper than spotify when you consider you get both YT Music and YT at the same time. So when you are watching YT you are not wasting money on music and when you are listening to music you ain’t wasting YT money.

      Here in Latvia I pay 19.99€ (24$) for family plan, wouldn’t be a problem if they raised by couple euros. I’m getting price rises everywhere right now because of dram shortage. My hetzner vps got bumped up by 2€ because of dram

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      1 month ago

      I’m with you. I save copies of all my music files externally.

      For those who still want to stream though, use Metrolist. Works exactly the same as Spotify and is a FOSS/No Ads product. I made a YT video about it recently.

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        Hmm this is a bit of a silly question but does Metrolist require to have a YouTube Music Subscription?

        I’m quite surprised the github page doesn’t mention that. It just says you have to be in a region where YT music is available.

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            Thanks for the quick response!

            Also is it possible to export your playlists in any way?

            One of the ways Spotify keeps me “captive” is by making it difficult to export playlists so it makes migrating difficult.

            So I would be tempted to move to another streaming platform but I would prefer to stay in control of my playlists.

            Anyway, thanks for the suggestion, metrolist looks really neat.

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              I know you can sign in with your youtube account. You might be able to port them to youtube music and then see them in metrolist if that makes sense.

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                Now that I think about it, if the playlist are indeed stored on Google’s servers, I could probably also use google takeout to require my personnal data. It’s what pipepipe/newpipe uses to dump subscriptions from YT.

  • 𝔼𝕩𝕦𝕤𝕚𝕒@lemmy.world
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    Gonna catch a lot of “get with the times” but an ad blocker and watching YouTube in browser on my phone - I’ve never seen the value of needing Premium to do adblocking or a whole ass app like Vanced. Maybe sponsorblock for more but like overall, my impression has always been YouTube Premium is a joke of a service that can never offer anything more than adblocking/sponsor block already just does from a browser on my phone.

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      In addition to removing ads in YouTube, it also gives ad-free YouTube Music (which fucking sucks because it always plays the video version of the audio). But honestly, the biggest problem is the app itself shoving shorts down your throat and lacking a bunch of features that third-party clients have. And even if you pay to remove ads from YouTube, you can’t pay to remove ads from the videos themselves. You can only do that with sponsorblock, which YouTube could totally just adopt if they wanted but as is, you have to use third part apps anyway.

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        (which fucking sucks because it always plays the video version of the audio).

        I disabled them in settings a couple of years ago and have not had issues since.

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          That switch does not work. It turns off the videos but still plays the video versions, which is even worse. I’m not sure it even knows the difference.

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      This is why they’re trying to lock down everything. Nerfing ad blockers in chrome, semi-banning all unapproved apps in Android.

      And don’t get me started on smart TVs. They were broken right out of the gate.

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    Still the best 16$ you can spend on video. My only issue is that this also correlates with increased ads which are clear net negative on our society.

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      I only ever get it when they send me an offer for 3 months for like $10 or something. Otherwise, fuck off Google, I’ll watch the shitty ads.

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          Switch to AdNauseam, a fork of uBO that garbles advertisers’ click data by invisibly clicking every ad before blocking (including blocking the resulting load so it doesn’t take any further data toll). Don’t just avoid; retaliate!

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            Fuck yeah. I have adnauseam on all my machines. Fuck the advertisers

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          You may have been on the version that was possibly exploited he stopped updates to that one and advised people to manually install the fixed one.

          I think he was being paranoid though, he did it because his PC was hacked and there’s no evidence anything was actually compromised on Smarttube.

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            Might could. I’m not up on the happenings. I just turned it on last night to watch cartoon hell and it just kept refreshing the video and never starting.

            But once I installed the beta it’s been working like a dream. Maybe I should delete the stable version and try again, but it’s working now and I’m incredibly lazy.

            Also didn’t know it was one person’s project. You know if they got a “buy me a coffee” thing or anything set up?

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              Not sure I know the guy is Ukrainian and it’s impressive he gets so many updates out considering. But yeah I only know of the scare mainly because of reddit making a huge deal about it and claiming the sky was falling etc.

              But yeah I think the github is about the only way to contact him really.

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    If you actually want to support artists, don’t. YouTube Music’s royalty payout is far from stable and transparent, not to mention low to others which is already hard to beat really. Tidal comes closest (from what I found to having functionality and paying artists a more fair rate. Qobuz is there too, Deezer pioneers detecting AI garbage that people think makes them artists now. Spotify got most features ofc but they’re unethical as shit

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    Any tips for iOS for my wife to not get ads? She uses YouTube occasionally to play old kids shows and the ads are really not good for a kid to see.

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      If she uses Safari, there are some good plugins. Not all are free. StopTheMadness Pro is not cheap but is a solution for many annoyances, not just YT. UnTrap for YouTube allows you to hide many elements like shorts. And SponsorBlock automatically skips sponsored segments. If she uses the YouTube app, delete it and set up a shortcut on the home screen to open the web version instead.

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      I’m still waiting for morphe to support other apps like instagram and tiktok (which I use for social obligations) before i move from revanced

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      I genuinely think Morphe has been the worst user experience I have ever had.

      I’m probably just unlucky or didn’t set something properly but I would say it’s very very frequent that the playback moves to random parts of the video. Like anytime anyway, the player will suddenly rewind to 10/20/30 mn before in the playback. It has been extremely infuriating. Even up to date and everything, it still does that constantly and has been for months. To the point I select videos in Morphe and then open them in pipepipe or Newpipe to properly watch them.

      Again, I’m probably doing something wrong but I truly developed a pretty deep hate for Morphe.

      I will again switch back to ReVanved and see if that works better but for me Morphe is extremely unreliable.