Hey guys, so I have been searching for the different ways to self-host a music-server and don’t really know whats the best/most elegant way to go.

I know that there is navidrome and many also use jellyfin for it. Now I have a few questions:

  • Are there any good apps for android for navidrome/jellyfin respectively?
  • how easy can I add songs to them/do they pull metadata from somewhere (like jellyfin does for movies)
  • how do they (or any other options) compare in terms of ease of setup/maintainability?
  • do you have any overall recommendations?

Thanks a lot for any tips/recommendations and your help :D

  • fleem@piefed.zeromedia.vip
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    1 month ago

    i have a computer in the bedroom that has my ‘local copy’ of music

    i download with nicotine on that computer, tag with picard, then sync with rclone to my proxmox server/navidrome lxc that runs on docker.

    i have an old music player device that i flashed Debian on, and installed two snapcast servers/clients simultaneously on that machine, one with mopid-subidy extension (but a fork that allows for server scrobbling) and another tied into home assistant for announcements.

    the player can play directly through mopidy, or DLNA

    or snapcast can swap to any of my linux computer’s with pipewire snapcast discover, and i can listen with feishin (or anything else in the entire world) and sling to snapcast from there.

    away from home, tempus on android

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    1 month ago

    Navidrome is one piece of a large ecosystem https://opensubsonic.netlify.app/docs/

    The think Navidrome does is that it includes almost everything in one convenient install.

    Use any server backend you like (I use Gonic because it is extremely simple) and then connect to it using any client that supports subsonic or opensubsonic

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    1 month ago

    I personally use Navidrome to host the music, and there are multiple android clients; personally I use Symfonium, but there is also Tempus and Tempo.

    Jellyfin can also do Music.

    The Music I put on Navidrome already has correct metadata, so I haven’t worried about that aspect.

    Its easy to maintain because I run it with docker.

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      1 month ago

      Fyi, it’s best not to recommend Tempo these days as it’s no longer maintained. Tempus is the fork of Tempo that’s still receiving regular updates (at a really good pace!)

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        1 month ago

        Good to know! Thanks for sharing. Tempus seems quite nice. Though Android Auto didnt work for me last I checked even with the update.

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          1 month ago

          I think since Android Auto compatibility requires proprietary Google binaries embedded in the apk, the degoogled version distributed on f-droid (as per f-droid’s terms) isn’t compatible. There’s a “full version” distributed in the github releases if you’re okay with those being included.

          You can keep apps from github updated using Obtainium if you like.

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              1 month ago

              You might still want to double check its the right version as the degoogled version is also distributed in the github releases alongside the “full” version.

              If the package name is `com.eddyizm.degoogled.tempus" it’s the wrong one and won’t be compatible with android auto

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    1 month ago

    As for me, I just use Syncthing between my devices so I have the same music files in my laptop and my phone. It works well as I don’t often change out the music I listen to, and plus it’s local files so no network required (good on an aeroplane, for example). I personally use an MPD client on my (Linux) laptop, while on Android I use Auxio (Lotus and Chocola are excellent too)

    If that doesn’t work for you, there is Jellyfin as well: Finamp for specifically music playback, Findroid for general Jellyfin use. Am not hosting Jellyfin currently so I don’t have anything to add besides that, but do check out the docs if you need help setting up / maintaining it!

  • StrawberryPigtails@discuss.tchncs.de
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    1 month ago

    I run both Navidrome and Jellyfin. I would say that Navidrome is probably simpler of the two to setup if you’re only interested in music.

    In both cases uploading new music is the same. Upload the tracks to your media directory and wait for the next scan.

  • jwiggler@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 month ago

    i stream music from my desktop at home. i use navidrome as the server (edit: behind a reverse proxy). it hooks up to lastfm account to grab metadata that is not already build into the files. sometimes the metadata in the files are wrong, so i have to fix with an app called picard.

    symphonium is a paid client i use on my phone, but it has so much customization that a buck or two made it worth it for me.

    i use soulseek to share media with my friends. sldl is a cli tool for it that makes it easy as one command album download.

  • Strit@lemmy.linuxuserspace.show
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    1 month ago

    I use jellyfin for my setup, mostly because I already use it for video.

    It can fetch metadata from audioDB or musicbrainz.

    I use the Finamp android app to play music and it works really well, even with Android Auto.

    It has been fine for my usecase, so I haven’t looked into other solutions.

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    1 month ago

    I personally use Navidrome, so everything I suggest will be based around you using that as well, however Jellyfin is probably a good option too.

    Navidrome has been incredibly simple, and there are numerous great options on android for player apps. Metadata can come with the music as you get it, or you can use tools like beets or musicbrainz Picard to tag them in bulk. Navidrome has been set-and-forget for me, as I’ve set the download folder for slskd (self hosted version of soulseek) to be the library folder for Navidrome.

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    1 month ago

    For a navidrome Android client, I use Symfonium, but it’s a paid Play Store exclusive. If you want FOSS, I’ve tried Tempus and it seems fine, the only reason I don’t use it is because I already paid for Symfonium

    I use slskd (docker container for soulseek) to download music and Lidarr to automatically move it to an organized folder structure. Lidarr doesn’t natively connect to slskd, so you have to use an extension (which I forget the name of atm) to get them to work together. No part of this assumes that music has any metadata or that you want it, but Lidarr can be setup to automatically retag imported downloads with metadata from musicbrainz. I don’t do this, I prefer manually retagging with Picard

    I don’t know what your experience with self hosting is, but I will say that I don’t think setting up a navidrome server is any more difficult than setting up a jellyfin server for shows and movies. Maintainability is pretty easy, just make sure that everything is updated every once in a while and you should be fine

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    1 month ago

    plexamp is great and super full featured (but pricey if you don’t get premium life-time on sale)
    If they ever decide to revoke my lifetime subscription I got basically a decade ago for cheap I’ll probably switch providers.

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    1 month ago

    Tempus is phenomenal. I switched to navidrome on my server to use it. Chora is also good, and I use it on my TV (works well on any screen). If you don’t mind closed-source, Symphonum is excellent.

    If you are using Jellyfin, it works well on PC, with Fintunes on mobile.

    You can find a number of good apps for navidrome here. I quite like Strawberry, which is cross-platform. I use it locally for library management.

    I connect everything with Tailscale, which is dead simple.

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      1 month ago

      Are you me? Cause I have exactly the same setup. Navidrome, tailscale, the whole thing. I also use strawberry. It’s OK but a bit basic. I recently tried Nocturne for desktop, looks promising, but still somewhat buggy.

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      1 month ago

      Thanks for the Chora recommendation, I recently pushed the Tempus apk to my tv as the dev has been working on better landscape screen support, but navigating it on tv still requires a mouse unfortunately.

      I’ll definitely give Chora a try when I get home

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    1 month ago

    I don’t touch or maintain anything, my setup is completely automated.

    I run navidrome as my music server. I use transmission, through a namespace with a VPN attached and port forwarded, all managed through systemd and I just turn it on and off as needed. I dump all music in any condition in my music folder and torrent dump music there once completed. Beets manages and fixes my music folder meta tags automatically.