Season 1, 8 Episodes of “mid quality but has potential and I’m invested”. After this, there are 3 possibilities:
- Show gets cancelled before season 2 because people weren’t interested enough
- Show gets cancelled after season 2 because people weren’t interested enough (2 years later)
- It’s Stranger Things
Most story lines need to end in a single season.
The biggest issue is they take years between seasons. People lose interest.
The first two shows they mention coming out with a season 2 recently had their season 1 release in 2023!
I agree. Other people are referencing how they cancel shows after one season, but that doesn’t seem relevant to this. We’re talking about people who do watch season 1 but not season 2.
Yeah two years for six episodes and I just don’t give a shit anymore.
Only for mediocre shows tbh. It took 3 years for Severance S2 and it was highly awaited still. Now after S2 I’m even more excited for S3 and don’t care if they take 2 or 3 years as long as the quality stays there.
But I don’t remember when Netflix had something I was so excited for.
Wait, I do actually. The Witcher. Super excited, didn’t care that they took 2 years… But then S2 was nowhere near as great as S1 and S3 just took a nosedive.
There’s a reason S1 was highly memed and the other seasons not.
I refuse to start watching a show until it’s finished. I get to watch the entire series at my own pace (no waiting a week between episodes or years between seasons), I avoid stewing in my opinions and reading public opinion during the hiatus and having that affect my enjoyment of the next season, and I don’t have to worry about the abrupt emotional disturbance of a premature cancelation. The only downside is having to avoid spoilers and not being able to join in conversation with others who are actually watching it while it originally airs.
Probably because Netflix has a habit of often cancelling shows after a season or two. Why should viewers get invested in a shot if there’s a good chance they will be cancelled?
Also, too many Netflix shows are pretty shit these days.
Yup I’ve decide I won’t watch a show that isn’t finished at this point. I’ve fallen in love with too many just to watch them get canceled.
The OA was so good and they fucking canceled it, I’ll never subscribe to their service ever again for that.
Season 2 was setup to be awesome.
Saaame. I got so angry when they canceled it. It broke my trust in them to deliver an end to any shows. Then they kept doing it. Left quite a long time ago and will not go back. There’s just nothing worth the money on Neflix.
Yup they just aren’t willing to allow a show to take time to establish themselves, many people won’t discover a show until its a few seasons in or even finished yet they can’t stand it if a show doesn’t get lots of views in season one.
Its not just Netflix these days. Every new show seems to start their life on the chopping block. If the first season doesn’t get enough views in the first few days its out then season two doesn’t even get made. If it does do okay then they get to start writing a second season, which means another 2 years before we get a second season and by then we have completely forgotten the show until you read about it getting cancelled 2 weeks after season 2 came out because nobody tuned in.
I can’t view the article, so I have a perfectly valid excuse for living my life like a Redditor – making a comment based on the headline only.
I don’t know if I’m one of those netflix viewers who has abandoned shows after one season. I’m not even sure how I could know. Netflix is by far the worst of the major streaming platforms in terms of obscuring their library. Their user experience choices are so heavily focused on making sure everybody’s watching the same 20 or 30 movies/shows that they tune literally everything else out. I’m not on Netflix 24/7 and I don’t tend to keep up with showbiz news. I know lots of people rotate streaming services. It’s very easy to see why folks would not be aware of additional seasons of a show being out.
The other issues that stifle my interest in shows applies to other services as well. The modern era’s long-ass gaps between seasons kills the inertia. Sure, I liked the season that came out 2 years ago, but I hardly remember it and I just don’t have time to try and go back to catch up. Of course there are recaps, but those by nature leave stuff out. Most likely unless that first season was really damn good, I just won’t bother.
Even so, it seems like a lot of these shows peak in their first season, lose the plot in the second, and then by the fourth or fifth season you’re essentially watching a headless male mantis clinging to life just long enough to finish the job. So, a lot of times if the first season isn’t absolutely stellar, I end up putting the show on my abyss of a watch list, likely never to return.
I’m not sure if I am one who has abandoned a show after one season. I’m not even sure how I could know
You can’t remember what you watched?
No, and he’s not the only one. So much shit can happen in a season of a show and then you get season 2 over a year later when you’ve watched like 10-20 other shows and you can’t remember side characters, side plots, or even finales.
As they said, many times the recaps leave a lot of stuff out that would actually be beneficial to a user. I wish I could recount an example, but I notice it as I watch the recap and sometimes it triggers a memory. I have these discussions with my wife who doesn’t remember what I do and vice versa.
Edit: I recently experienced this with both Vox Machina and Invincible.
It’s kind of interesting you say this. When I go on my Netflix account, I see the same 20-30 things. Gets old and I can never find anything I want to watch. When I’m at my friends and open her Netflix, it’s like a completely different service. I see a ton of things that look interesting that I’ve never seen on my own account. It’s quite strange.
I cancelled all my streaming subscriptions when they all started pulling price shenanigans.
Now I either use Stremio, properly “Arrified”, or sail the high seas with qbitorrent, which, by the way, has a very good search function not enabled by default, and which many people don’t know about. (Google qbitorrent search jackett)
To look for things I usually go to rotten tomatoes.
Also, there are frequent posts here or on other sites where people post their favorite shows/movies, which are often great for discovering less known shows.
Their new UI made it godawful to find anything. It’s got to be one of the worst UI updates I’ve ever seen in a modern service.
You can only see 4 things at once on my large screen TV. Then if you have the audacity to scroll down to see more, you’re almost always greeted with one of the same ones in that group of 4. Then they throw games in there to just fuck up your attempt to find anything, and then because you watched one thing 10 years ago, it decides to still show you this category of show you don’t like “because you watched xyz show”.
I hate it so much.
Absolutely, all of this. I cancelled Netflix, in part because it had become impossible to navigate, it’s a junk box. You could be scrolling for hours looking for something inspiring you to watch it, nothing. Everything they make is bland, basic and sanitised, like what Disney did to family movies, it’s torture to watch, so unengaging. (Plus all the evil, and price rises, so it was easy to leave).
They had a good run for a few years but id say in the last 5 years or longer…for seasons with several after about S3 they start to get sillier to the point of unbelievable. Id say now it has even started to happen around S2 recently.
Secondly a lot of stuff is very…the samey and TBH boring, if something is good they try to repeat it over and over. Generally now i see the N sighn and i am like nah, its likely to be average.
Also, they get new customers by advertising the hottest new show, not the seventh seasonest show.
Avatar has been pretty much a let down just like cowboy bebop. I really wanted it to be good, but they did this really strange with changing the characters personalities and corrupting the flow of the story.
One piece has been good so far but I got the impression it might be pulling back on the main character.
Honestly I thought Avatar was a pretty good show. The biggest flaw it has is poor pacing. Trying to tell a full season’s story in only 10 episodes is just a bad plan
Yeah that must be a big part of how im feeling about it. The first episode of s2 put me to sleep. I wanna go back and finish it.
I wasn’t predjudiced because I’d had zero exposure to any of þe original material, books or animated, so I was able to enjoy Cowboy Bebop and was sad it was cancelled.
That’s fair, I probably am being too harsh on it. I did want to see season 2 of it before I wrote it off entirely.
I read a lot of fans didn’t like it, which I completely understand. It’s just a good example of how expectations can shape enjoyment. I knew þe name but noþing else about þe story, and þought it was great: great acting, decent FX, interesting story; I was looking forward to seeing where it went.
I haven’t tried þe original, but I’ve never liked most Anime and would probably dislike it because it wasn’t more like þe live-action :-)
The problem with One Piece is that it’s huge, its so effing long that it’s guaranteed to get ended at some point, it depends on how cleanly.
Long anime series are treated a bit differently than North American live action productions. One Piece will most likely continue being made as long as there’s manga to adapt. (Whether the mangaka will finish the story, drop it abruptly to do something else, or die of old age with it still incomplete is another question.) The only other thing that might kill it is if the studio making it folds, but as far as I know Toei is relatively healthy.
At ~1170 episodes, One Piece isn’t even close to being the longest-running anime series airing in Japan today. I don’t think it’s even in the top five.
Maybe because netflix cancels show a week after season 1 drops?
People got burnt too many times, best case scenario it’s a huge hit and in 3 years we get a 8 hour season 2.
Why would viewers get invested?
Seems like a positive feedback loop:
- Netflix creates show that’s pretty good
- People watch it
- Netflix takes too long to release season 2
- People forget show exists, stop watching
- Netflix drops a season years later
- No one watches it because they forgot what happened in season 1 and Netflix shows are so serial that you have to know what happened
- Netflix cancels show due to low viewership
- Fans of the show feel jilted and slam Netflix on social media
- Rinse and repeat
Don’t forget the step in between 4 and 5 where Netflix recalculates the interest in season 2 and drastically changes the scope and pacing, making it more jarring for returning viewers or turning them off before the season drops
Or what about how the first fifteen minutes of each season 2 episode is just “last time on…” and viewers decide they don’t have the time for this shit
company known for cancelling shows after 1 season is surprised to discover their viewers are dropping shows after 1 season
That’s the glib interpretation but it’s more likely NetFlix knew we sucked all along and was acting accordingly than that they trained us only to watch one season.
Netflix viewers: “There is more than 1 season to these shows?”
Exactly.
I would love for more one and done seasons. Wrap it all up. What’s annoying to me is you get 3 seasons into something and they run out of ideas.
Worse, they run out of ideas after two seasons but keep going.
Or even worse, make one or two seasons and cancel on a cliffhanger
Netflix started it.
A whole story in 3 words.
I would argue most tv show now only need to be 1 season long but they either pad them out so much it’s insufferable OR create needless drama that i do not care about to keep the show going
Why should viewers be interested, when Netflix treats its shows like draft ideas that more often than not get scrapped after one season?
Make a good second season then?
