I agree that if you run a thing then you get to decide things about it. I agree that calls for for violence should be filtered from normies at all cost (I’m very pro guillotine but I think it’s best to have everyone get there on their own pace). I agree that homophobia/transphobia has no place in a civilised space. So, mostly everything that was stated there.
I don’t use Tesseract but I did try it out back in the day and I remember that there was a button labeled „toxicity” in settings. I’m surprised by what it does from a technical perspective because I’d expect it to do filtering based on keywords. But user filters definitely work too, it’s just that you have to keep your ear to the ground which is a lot of effort. I modded a national subreddit back in the day and for certain type of users doing a pseudo-shadowban was the only way to do it.
I can’t vouch for every person on the list being there for a valid reason. I scrolled it but didn’t recognise anyone. I stay out of crowded spaces though.
Being upfront about some bans is detrimental to the effort because of ban evaders, which is most of this list supposedly. The toggle was still there there and the list was public.
The list was not public, what are you going on about? He was also not ‘running’ anything for most users, any more than Linus is ‘running’ my pc just because I’m using Linux.
The list was not public, what are you going on about?
Tesseract is open source, no?
He was also not ‘running’ anything for most users, any more than Linus is ‘running’ my pc just because I’m using Linux.
He is running an opinionated client to the underlying ActivityPub network. He states that in user agreement and docs for admins that want to host it on their own.
Do I agree with a design philosophy intended to decrease polarisation? Heck yeah. The amount of downvotes I’ve got shows what kind of people this thing attracts. Reeks of reddit.
Are you at all aware of the actual details of this incident?
Tesseract is open source, no?
It was an intentionally obfuscated line of code that pulled a file direct from his server. A file that was intentionally not in the repo so they nobody would know about it. In IT, we call that malware.
To begin with: Apps using such lists make it very clear upfront what they are doing. NOBODY OBFUSCATES THE VERY EXISTENCE OF THE LIST.
The list can also easily be a part of the repo that’s pulled at runtime. Or viewable and modifiable from within the app itself.
It wasn’t encrypted.
It’s a client side app, by definition there’s no easy way to encrypt it. Dude certainly gave it a shot by base-64 encoding it. There was no technical reason to encode a text file.
You agree with it? What part?
I agree that if you run a thing then you get to decide things about it. I agree that calls for for violence should be filtered from normies at all cost (I’m very pro guillotine but I think it’s best to have everyone get there on their own pace). I agree that homophobia/transphobia has no place in a civilised space. So, mostly everything that was stated there.
I don’t use Tesseract but I did try it out back in the day and I remember that there was a button labeled „toxicity” in settings. I’m surprised by what it does from a technical perspective because I’d expect it to do filtering based on keywords. But user filters definitely work too, it’s just that you have to keep your ear to the ground which is a lot of effort. I modded a national subreddit back in the day and for certain type of users doing a pseudo-shadowban was the only way to do it.
I can’t vouch for every person on the list being there for a valid reason. I scrolled it but didn’t recognise anyone. I stay out of crowded spaces though.
That would be fine, IF he had been upfront about it. Instead of going the malware route
Being upfront about some bans is detrimental to the effort because of ban evaders, which is most of this list supposedly. The toggle was still there there and the list was public.
The list was not public, what are you going on about? He was also not ‘running’ anything for most users, any more than Linus is ‘running’ my pc just because I’m using Linux.
Tesseract is open source, no?
He is running an opinionated client to the underlying ActivityPub network. He states that in user agreement and docs for admins that want to host it on their own.
Do I agree with a design philosophy intended to decrease polarisation? Heck yeah. The amount of downvotes I’ve got shows what kind of people this thing attracts. Reeks of reddit.
Are you at all aware of the actual details of this incident?
It was an intentionally obfuscated line of code that pulled a file direct from his server. A file that was intentionally not in the repo so they nobody would know about it. In IT, we call that malware.
How else could such list work? New Tesseract release for every update to the filter? It wasn’t encrypted.
To begin with: Apps using such lists make it very clear upfront what they are doing. NOBODY OBFUSCATES THE VERY EXISTENCE OF THE LIST.
The list can also easily be a part of the repo that’s pulled at runtime. Or viewable and modifiable from within the app itself.
It’s a client side app, by definition there’s no easy way to encrypt it. Dude certainly gave it a shot by base-64 encoding it. There was no technical reason to encode a text file.
You are not going to get a town square full of normies enjoying guillotines by making them exclusive.