• unfreeradical@slrpnk.net
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    7 months ago

    I feel your pure motives are in tension with practical constraints.

    Messaging achieves efficacy through simplification. We pick the most important priorities, while still maintaining more rigorous discourse for anyone specifically able to engage more deeply. As movements evolve, and public consciousness develops, we find newer priorities, perhaps ones more favorable generally.

    Being overly earnest in seeking a pure form of communication simply keeps the larger mass alienated that we rather need to be participants.

    Regardless, state capitalism is not any kind of opposition to capitalism. We certainly should exclude opposition that is not meaningful.

    • Diva (she/her)@lemmy.ml
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      7 months ago

      I think you replied to me twice with the same comment:

      What is the practical constraint?

      I already said I dont think there’s value in approaching this as a messaging campaign. I also don’t see how this would be an important priority.

      I don’t understand what you’re trying to convey by saying this is a ‘pure form of communication’. I think that this is a material struggle and trying to approach it like a marketing campaign is not constructive, it also reproduces liberal assumptions about power by treating domination as a matter of style rather than structure.

      Regardless, state capitalism is not any kind of opposition to capitalism. We certainly should exclude opposition that is not meaningful.

      I don’t think wholesale denunciation of past revolutionary movements in the name of consciousness-raising is useful. It turns complex, material struggles into symbols of what not to be, tailored for acceptability rather than understanding. That kind of simplification doesn’t challenge domination, it reassures people that nothing more disruptive need be imagined.

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        7 months ago

        The reality is that our movements may only succeed through expanding participation and improving unity.

        Messaging plays a vital role in our movements developing along such a successful course, messaging that is accessible and straightforward even at the cost of completeness.

        I doubt you will find a historical example to contrary, but it seems that on the particular matter we are simply in disagreement.