A video, discovered on the cellphone of a paramedic who was found along with 14 other aid workers in a mass grave in Gaza in late March, shows that the ambulances and fire truck that they were traveling in were clearly marked and had their emergency signal lights on when Israeli troops hit them with a barrage of gunfire.
Israel shooting medics, throwing them in a mass grave and then lying about it? Better not talk about it, or we might be labelled as antisemites and/or terrorist supporters.
the paramedic who filmed the video was later found with a bullet in his head in the mass grave. His name has not been disclosed yet because he has relatives living in Gaza concerned about Israeli retaliation
“We killed your son, and it came to light, so now we’re going to kill you.”
It’s truly hard to fathom the depth of evil in isreal right now. And we’re fucking funding it. We’re arming them, and paying them to continue. Meanwhile AIPAC continues to fund primaries against our politicians that speak out. The US is a fucking joke.
Yeah well if they’re in Gaza Israel wants to (and eventually will) kill them regardless.
Don’t forget, the US pays for Israel is to come to the US to train their police departments into believing that every civilian is basically a terrorist that needs to be killed.
somehow this went from defending themselves against terrorist’s, to them becoming terrorists as well
The state of Israel was founded by genocidal terrorists
Religion as a concept and religious states are nothing short of fascism. It doesn’t matter if the upmost entity is fictional, and the power is actually wielded by kings or popes and such, or if it’s Hitler, at the end it’s all the same: A way to suppress and mass murder anyone and anything that doesn’t please the Führer(s).
Zionism is a secular/atheist project. It was strongly opposed by religious Jews at the beginning and still is by many. They had to work very strongly to create some religiously painted zionism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism
You are blaming the side of ethnic Jewish people that mostly opposed Zionism for it. And especially blaming it on the religion is strange, as their motivation for opposing Zionism is religious.
I have the feeling that many people are just projecting their experiences and concepts of their brand of extremist Christians (Evangelical, hardcore Catholics…) onto Jews and Muslims.
Yes, it’s totally the christians double-death-sentencing 16 year olds for being homosexual and not believing in god, not the UAE government.
Religion as a concept should not exist. Genocides, mass enslaving and gassing are almost all results of religion and religion-like structures. It’s no wonder that countries built, formed and led by religions clash with other countries, as almost every religions literal only purpose is to 1) provide comfort for people in need and 2) establish and burn that batshit crazy believe in every humans mind, bind them to the leaders indefinitely and take over literally every speck of the earth, because only that religion is correct, and should rule. You know what other moves had that exact same signature, motives and effects? Correct, the NSDAP under Hitler. Which is why it’s literally seen as a “replacement-religion” - it combines everyone under one small group of leaders, with bullshit takes and erases everything else. The only difference being that religion (again, as a concept, not the people) is much more subtle, at least in modern times. But as we see, everywhere, especially in countries with religion (religious leaders themselves) as the defacto government, it still very much exists.
As long as religion has any power, and can therefore fulfill purpose 2, it’s literal fascism. We need to destroy each and every government and large religious organizations, remove any power from lobbies and churches, and provide all children with neutral information about everything, including religion. So they can themselves choose to believe in bullshit, so it may help them, but without granting anyone arbitrary power by those beliefs.
So you still claim that the crimes of secular/atheist organizations are to be blamed on religion?
Because the criticism you attribute to religiously painted states or organizations can be equally put to secular/atheist organizations.
French Colonialism was secular. The Nazis were largely Atheists. Stalin and Mao were notorious for slaughtering religious people and destroying religious organizations. B.P., BASF, DuPont and other large polluting companies… All secular. Zuckerberg, Musk, Thiel, all Atheists. You would have to equally demand the destruction of all Atheism by your logic, which then ends up in a fallacy.
Or you would have come to terms with the fact that presence or absence of outwardly presented religion does not have any indication as to what is in peoples hearts of good and evil.
If you believe in the destruction of Religion i recommend you to look at the work of Stalin. That is what systematic destruction of Religion looks like in practice.
Militant atheists will never cease to amaze me with the nonsense they come up with (and how they say “religion” but can only think of Christianity as an example).
It’s always been like this, but more importantly: The IDF aren’t (at least primarily) terrorists; they’re a Jewish Wehrmacht launching a war of extermination on the people of Gaza. Calling that terrorism implies that they’re equal to Hamas rather than subjecting Palestinians one of the worst crimes a state can commit.
Literally.
In 1948, both Irgun and Lehi disbanded and merged into the newly formed IDF, though some former members later entered israeli politics. (Yitzhak Shamir: Prime Minister of israel (1983–84, 1986–92). Initially Lehi’s operations chief, he later led the Likud party and upheld hardline Zionist policies)
No points for guessing which party Bibi belongs to, and which currently holds power.
Always has been
Are you talking about the genocidal invaders? lmao.
I am astonished how silent the west is. Why not a single nation is required to conduct independent investigation and require accountability on Israel’s side.
What happened on the 7th of October was horrible but it is not giving Israel a carte blanche to commit war crimes and crimes against humanity.
Repub or Dem no American in power will censure Israel b/c the U.S. will do nothing to jeopardize our military reach there. It’s a sad fact that is at the basis of all of this, and this fundamental misunderstanding cost Kamala a lot of voters
Everyone wants to pretend it’s satanism or globalism or communism or whatever fucking ism is the bad guy this week but really it’s just that the U.S. refuses to give up willingly the title of ‘world’s best warlord’
I also wonder what are the israelian citizens doing/thinking? Are they all as extreme as Netanjahu? Or am i just missing their demonstrations against genocide?
The Jewish People Policy Institute Israel Index survey found that 8 out of 10 Jewish Israelis agreed with Trump’s proposal of expelling Palestinians from Gaza.
Forty-three percent of all Israelis said that the expulsion plan was “practical” and should be implemented, while 30 percent said the plan was “desirable” but not practical.
A minority of 13 percent - made of up 54 percent of Palestinian respondents and just three percent of Jewish Israelis - described the Trump plan as “immoral”.
That’s fucking disgusting. Even at the start of Russian invasion, their citizens were protesting and going to jail for it. Never saw the same from israeli citizens. Guess this explains why.
They elected Netanyahu in a democratic way. Israeli citizens have zero empathy from me.
like every population they are mixed, and there have been public protests so at least there is some opposition
Mostly I think the average person is just low information and agitated with a constant background of fear and confusion, tribalistic and relying on gut feeling over rationality
There are also some ridiculously greedy and violent bandits that will kill a family for land, but they are in the minority.
But also why do you and others in the west keep acting like this started on Oct 7th? Israel has been fucking up Palestine for as long as I can remember.
This is what eventually broke me during the last Trump vs. Biden/Harris election.
I understand a lot of people shit on (non)voters like me, but it was the first time in 20 years that I could not vote either way. I always thought it would get bad, and then worse, and then worse still, but I honestly thought eventually the Biden Admin would grow a pair of gonads and say “enough”. Right around the time the video was released of Israelis setting Palestinians on fire in the Hospital and the IDF throwing people off of roofs, that’s when just something inside of me died.
^Propaganda account
You caught me 🙄
Why even do it? You can’t be that truly nihilistic
And it really boggles my head that you have only two political parties there. Like what the heck, what kind of democracy is this?
It’s not a democracy it’s a representative democracy so basically we have a giant suggestion box that our elected leaders can look at and say “I’ll consider that in my vote in Congress”.
Don’t let people shame you into the lesser of two evils argument because it’s your vote at the end of the day. I heard all sides for the past 10 years now and honestly we got to Trump because of Hillary and not having a party that stood for anything.
It’s not lesser of two evils it’s inaction that’s the issue “the world sucks so let me do absolutely nothing about it whaaaa” just fuck right off to a forest cabin or smt instead of spreading your shit defeatism onto others.
Not what I said. If you think the Democratic party is going to save you than go ahead and keep voting for Chuck Schumer’s fetal position strategy because it’s your vote and you shouldn’t be shamed in voting one way or another same as this guy doing whatever he wants with his vote. That’s it.
Your right wing democrats aint gonna do fucking shit. They cant even stand up to Trump. They are the ones literally doing nothing and just standing back
You mean like how democrats love to claim their hands are tied on any issue that benefits the common person? Pointing out that electoralism hasn’t worked isn’t defeatism, it’s recognizing reality.
IDF members are war criminals. Isreal is genocidal state.
Israel will claim anything to not seem like genocidal maniacs. Seriously, fuck Netanyahu. The arrogance of killing CLEARLY marked aid workers, and claiming they weren’t marked is baffling.
Even in WWII soldiers would respect the red cross
What I don’t get is that almost nothing is happening. They are systematically and blatantly committing the most atrocious warcrimes and there is no outcry by the nations. What they do in one day would be enough to denounce any weaker developing country. The west is showing once again that the international community is really all about control, capitalism and racism.
How is it just blamed on “the west”. China, India and other “Eastern” countries are in the UN as well. Would you not have to say it just shows they care nothing about the international community and it is really about their control and power as well? The world is watching executions around the world, and people are just being censored to/from it by their governments. Israel’s biggest trading partner is China by far, almost twice the U.S. Not any huge press from them about stopping.
Good point, I don’t disagree. China doesn’t have a history of writing human rights on their flags though.
I’m no expert but that is a war crime
I’m a lot closer to being an expert than most people and that’s a war crime.
As well as withholding humanitarian aid and medical supplies during an ongoing war. But apparently no one cares about international law anymore or they do care selectively depending on the nation committing the war crimes.
And it’ll, once again, change fuck all…
The IDF is bombing UN buildings and people are still waffling on calling Israel a terrorist nation is hilarious.
I had to reread this a few times to understand that “waffling” means being hesitant.
Eh am I old? that’s not a strange phrase is it?
It’s not a common international English word and English is not my native language.
ah yeah I can see that, sorry
No worries.
Native English speaker, though haven’t lived in the UK (nor any other country with English as the primary/dominant language) since I was a chid.
I’ve heard the phrase a million times said out loud.
First time I’ve seen it in written language, however.
Well, not that hilarious, really.
It’s hilarious in a “humanity is completely fucked I’m screaming internally” way. This is not sane laughter
I’d like to know how all of us watching Israel kill thousands of Palestinians - and we do nothing to stop it - is any different than the world watching Germany kill Jews, gypsies, Poles, scientists, etc in WW2?
There. Is. No. Fucking. Difference.
There is a difference: we’re helping to fund it.
USA was profiting quite nicely off Nazi Germany in World War 2 right up until the USA entered the war in 1941. Some historians argue there is nothing wrong with that. I think many would disagree.
The US government at the time was lobbied heavily by business and private citizens (including the Nazi Party of America) to stay neutral in the war, so they largely did just that right up until Pearl Harbour made it so they could not turn away. There were exceptions, eg: oil and metals used for creating ammunition were agreed not to be sold as part of the Allied Agreement with the UK (and others) and boats coming in and out were blockaded. But even that didn’t stop big fans of fascism, such as the Texaco CEO at the time whom supplied oil to the Nazis up until late 1940.
So, honestly I don’t think a lot has changed.
I guess the US government wasn’t directly funding WW2, but they also didn’t care one bit until it affected them directly - it was making their donors money. Paralleled today the US govt at large doesn’t care, and primarily funds Israel for two reasons: protecting their oil interests in the middle east (business donors and strategic benefits), and every dollar provided in the budget is actually a voucher to go buy some weapons or military equipment from a US firm - so again, its to cynically drive military-industrial investment (strategic) and protect their business donors.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_collaboration_with_Nazi_Germany
so they largely did just that right up until Pearl Harbor made it so they could not turn away
FWIW we (the United States) could conceivably have gone on turning away from what Germany was doing even after Pearl Harbor (although that was unlikely given Roosevelt’s anti-Germany stance). Hitler declared war on the US on December 11th, not the other way around.
Yeah, even in my excessively long reply to a one sentence comment I was skipping over a lot of information for brevity, and I’m not a historian. My point was only to illuminate that the US stance pre-WW2 involvement was not dissimilar to today’s - broadly the govt doesnt care that people suffer even to the point of genocide now nor then, as long as national interests (basically business and economy) are unimpeded.
Thanks for the added info.
One of the things I say to my Jewish friends and family is, “explain to me how what Israel is doing - like cutting off food, water and medicine to an entire population of civilians it keeps in a ghetto is anything different that what the national socialist Germans did to the Warsaw Ghetto, because it looks like the exact same thing to me.”
At first a crime, then doubling down on the crime and making it a massacre, then destroying evidence and lying to everyone about the circumstances…
…I do wonder if there’s something else the IDF needs to accomplish, for some countries to reconsider their support to Israel.
Y’know, I’m starting to think those Israelis are a bunch of fucking assholes.
If they do just one more genocide I’m gonna start getting a little angry
I lay the blame at the IDF and their far-right Likud government who has openly said they will protect any IDF soldiers accused of war crimes.
I don’t wish to tar a whole country with the same brush.
Wow, even the NYT is reporting on it?
On a similar article, a lot of people on reddit were saying that they could be terrorist on disguise, therefore is on to kill them (attempt to) ask, and that’s all good as per Geneva convention.
My reply was deleted, my account banned and my will to stay on that platforms eliminated.
Zionists bending over backwards rationalizing their war crimes as just anti-terrorist attacks while they are invading another country is the ultimate mental 4D chess.
When not being like you it’s there crime, everybody is a valid target
reddit is absolutely unusable.
I got banned for similar behavior, but I still lurk there sometimes. Recently I read an upvoted comment along the lines of: “I would rather have the Nazi for government than live with these hamas supporters and wokists.”
There are hundreds of other examples of how biased toward fascism this platform has become. From my understanding, many moderators of large subreddits (e.g., r/worldnews, r/mapporn, r/news, r/geopolitics) have been purged and replaced with state-affiliated actors like literal IOF soldiers.
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r/worldnews is Israeli gov’t propaganda
Don’t worry, you would have also been banned if you had depicted israelis suffering the same abuse at the hands of Palestinians. They REALLY don’t like to imagine that.
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A colleague lost his brother with this convoy. The path / location of the convoy was shared with the israelis too. They were executed and the vehicles completely destroyed.
