I am so glad I’m off reddit. Even though I could use their help on a great number of subjects. Neverheless, because Isreal I can’t use reddit apparently. Not permabanned yet but they are on my shit with fake violations like right away now. I abandon them after a 2nd violation, go through one every 3 to 6 months when using it.
Every single company that goes public gets worse, reddit will be no exception. Those craven amoral cockscum are not to be trusted, nor patronized with our words they can use for their own benefit.
Whats reddit?
funny, that comes just on the heels of my deciding that reddit is unsafe.
You’re just now realizing it?
not really but it make for good joke pacing.
i’ve been here for a while. and not there for a while.
even logged in I can’t access old reddit anymore.
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Thanks. That was too easy not to do.
working for me
if you use the reddit enhanced suite extension you can get redirected
If I wasn’t permabanned I might bother trying work arounds.
I just checked my old.reddit login on the desktop… still working just fine today. I don’t think you need work-arounds, you just need to access it without any work-arounds.
You think that if I do the thing that’s not working that it will somehow work.
I get blocked and asked to login to reddit no matter if it’s old or new. safereddit still works though so I’m using that for now.
The entire fucking point of the Web was to make information as easily-accessible as possible, structured and semantically tagged, and consumable by humans and further machine transformation alike. “Scraping” is facilitated by design!
Using Javascript to deliberately break that is evil and every programmer who participates it is a piece of shit. No exceptions.
Its amazing to me how consistently the shitty behaviours of these billionaire techbro oligarchs impact disabled or marginalised people… even when the point isnt to directly shit on them. Its fucking vile.
I honestly think many (too many, but certainly not all! I am one) programmers are some of the immoral, ethically spurious people around in the 21st century.
That is why they want AI to replace programmers. AI morals are programmed, so they can be designed to do shitty things that a normal person would refuse.
Hmffh, anti-copyright. After all, every view is a copy to your machine. Just information being free.
That’s true but they probably didn’t account for AI data scrapers ramfucking your server so they could steal all the value you assembled for general consumption and serve it themselves for profit.
The scraping wouldn’t be a problem if Reddit simply provided an RSS feed or other data-efficient API. The “ramfucking” is caused by the attempt to block bots; it is entirely self-inflicted.
Remember, it’s all our content to begin with and Reddit does not have any right to try to lock it up for itself.
That doesn’t mean I like all the AI bullshit going on, BTW. But the problem is the generation of the slop, not the data accessibility.
Well they had an API, but…
so why was I getting hit with over 1,400,000 request a day to the web URI and not the API by some bot farm in China the other week. They were also hitting other lemmy instances.
I blocked the fuckers, no qualms at all.
Even if they were using the API they were not being nice about their shit.
Reddit does have RSS feeds
But we all know AI companies are unethically scraping and selling shit back to us right? I just really need people to acknowledge that.
It is the “selling shit back to us” specifically, not the “scraping,” that’s the unethical part. If the AI companies were doing the same scraping (and destructive rare book scanning, for that matter), but were using the data to populate archive.org, would it still be a problem? I would argue “no.”
I think it would be a problem because the scrapers are hammering all types of websites from small forums to reddit with tens of thousands of unique ip addresses at a time. Websites that have neither the money, hardware, or protection had to figure out solutions really quick or suffer what is essentially a constant ddos attack. This is the reality of the web now, it’s just an incredibly hostile place.
The “scraping” part becomes unethical when the scraping is so aggressive that it takes down the website (or severely impacts its ability to serve actual clients).
Archive.org scrapes the web all the time, but it doesn’t do it so aggressively that it becomes an issue for the websites they’re scraping. The same cannot be said for AI scrapers.
The scraping wouldn’t be a problem if Reddit simply provided an RSS feed or other data-efficient API
Reddit does provide RSS feeds, e.g.: https://www.reddit.com/r/SonicTheHedgehog/.rss
Frankly, I’m surprised they still offer RSS feeds. They’ve been slowly but surely killing off all ways of accessing their content for years. One day they’ll disable them, but for now they still work.
The scraping wouldn’t be a problem if Reddit simply provided an RSS feed or other data-efficient API
That’s simply not true. These bots are essentially DDOSing the entire internet, API or not.
Okay, if efficient APIs existed and they weren’t incompetently failing to use them, it wouldn’t be a problem. Happy now?
(I should’ve addressed that in my previous comment, as I was aware of how one of the Lemmy instances was taken down by scrapers the other day despite the fact that they could easily get all the content simply by consuming ActivityPub directly. But I was naively hoping it wouldn’t be necessary because, as you can see from this text, it would’ve cluttered up my writing with double the words.)
I don’t even understand how there are still so many comments on that site. How is anyone even accessing it anymore? I just assume it’s 100% bots
The site is most hostile to visitors who aren’t logged in, and the users who comment probably mainly visit the site while logged in.
Nah I have been banned loads for insanely minor stuff. I got a sitewide ban having appealed a ban for some star trek opinion I cant remember.
My account was eight years old with a decrnt history and contributions. They give mods too luch sway because mods are losers doing work for free.
They’ve already disabled old.reddit for me. That makes it unusable, and thank you, Reddit. I actually used a domain blocker to block reddit, but generally would still be tempted to peek. Now, that is no longer the case. I, for one, am wholly in support of Reddit’s new anti-advertising stance!
afaik supposedly it was because a large chunk of the bot network went through the old.reddit portal over the standard reddit portal.
That’s just an excuse by reddit. Moving to the new style allows them to choke down and control the way that posts and replies are displayed and nested. This is good for them, because it allows them to offer white glove PR services to paying customers. It also obfuscates useful user supplied content so that it can be sold wholesale to anyone who has the money to buy it. That’s more important to them than offering a good user experience and useful website to the proles.
Anyone still posting on reddit (who isn’t a bot) is working for free for an unscrupulous company.
Anyone still posting on reddit (who isn’t a bot) is working for free for an unscrupulous company.
Reddit was founded during the “crowdsourcing” craze. People realized that they could launch websites where all the content was created by the users, and it would snowball into daily views.
My point is that posting and commenting on Reddit has always been doing free work for an unscrupulous company. You could argue that it wasn’t unscrupulous before it went public, but even that is debatable.
Only because the bots were already set up to do it that way. It’s quicker to use what exists when it works.
How dare you question King Steven the Turd, Greediest of Pigboys? If he proclaims HTML to be unsafe, it must be so. That’s a King’s job, to tell the Landed Gentry how to behave…
I’m not forgetting or forgiving that shit either.
Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.
This is because appending
site: reddit.comto a search query is basically a surefire way to find results written by genuine humans.The article is from 2026, not 2016? That bot-ridden Reddit? Am i in the wrong film?
Meanwhile, I use
-site:reddit.commore and more.
We are not the same. ;)100% bot ridden. However site:reddit.com is used for the types of questions where otherwise, you just get page after page of SEO sites, which are even wose.
Hey, those are real human made bots. Not shitty ai generated bots.
Or that site:url doesn’t return results it used too anymore.
wrong film
Second reality on your left, past the one where Santa Clause rules the world
Yesterday, I visited new Reddit. No VPN, Chrome in incognito mode, so no extensions, clickedon a link directly from Google search. Got a message that my access was blocked for security reasons. Copied the link to Firefox (with uBO and a few privacy-centric extensions), changed it to old reddit (where I was already logged in), and it worked just fine. I found out that when Reddit kills old reddit, I won’t even have the choice to switch to the new one (not that I ever would) because I’d be blocked anyway.
It works through Tor, by the way. I had the same experience can’t look at it but I can through Tor. They even have a .onion.
“reddit has made a bad decision” is not news. it’s entirely what is expectable of them.
this is like when in a community i am looked at as a criminal because i don’t drink alcohol.
