• TrackinDaKraken@lemmy.world
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    5 hours ago

    I hope Louis is being careful. There’s not as much protection in being public as there used to be. The billionaires know they’re essentially immune. I don’t think it’s too much to imagine anymore that he might end up deported, or disappeared in some other way.

    • 1984@lemmy.today
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      3 hours ago

      This is not nearly as important as you think it is. If you ask 300 million Americans who this guy is, you would have some random kids knowing about him from YouTube. And that’s it.

      It just seems important because it’s in your fringe interest.

  • MangoCats@feddit.it
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    6 hours ago

    To take the title literally: people have stopped wanting to own their shit since the advent of the flush toilet. In the days of the privee, you’d own your shit, you’d muck it out and maybe do something of value with it. But with the flush toilet, your shit belongs to someone else, they deal with it.

    In the digital services economy ‘your shit’ could be considered to include your profile information, what do you use, where do you go, when do you do it, how often, how much do you pay? That ‘digital shit’ has about as much value as what you flush down the toilet, individually, but combined into representative market statistics it’s digital gold - predictive information about what will sell, how much of it will sell at what prices, where and when.

    Personally, I’d trade my ‘digital shit’ for advertising. Yes, you can track me, if I don’t have to listen to, see, read or receive ANY marketing materials that I do not specifically actively seek for myself. Unfortunately, that’s not the way the current models work and there’s about zero incentive for the advertising world to change.

    As for “streaming” vs “owning” digital content, streaming is the ultimate form of tracking - besides the hook of making you pay per view or listen or read - a huge value (to the sellers) in streaming is that tracking is built-in 100% effective.

    Then we can devolve into the world of “durable consumer goods” being led by fast-fashion straight down the toilet. Own a car? Actually maintain it and keep it running for 30, 50 or 100 years? Inconceivable in the world of corporate profit maximization. That’s as backwards as clothing that you buy once and wear for decades, mending and tailoring as needed.

  • FLAGSHIP@lemmy.zip
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    8 hours ago

    I do feel the more and more pervasive all of these subscription models become the more compelling data hoarding becomes. The main problem being as it gets worse, storage prices keep climbing. Physical media is cool and all but collecting DVD, Blu-ray, books and CDs or any combination of the 4 quickly becomes a physical space issue. Collecting all of this media digitally and keep it all on HDD space is a much more attractive solution. Give you ‘physical’ forever access and doesn’t take up so much space.

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      6 hours ago

      storage prices keep climbing

      This is just another oscillation cycle in the generally declining cost per bit of storage. We recently went through an oversupply price crash: 2023 prices of $40 per TB and less were an aberration due to supply creating a glut beyond what market demand would consume at any price.

      Now we’re hitting a double spike both from production ramp-down after the 2023 over-supply, coupled with an unanticipated demand spike with LLMs in 2025 and beyond…

      How long before we’re back down below $40/TB ? If you could predict that, you could make so much money on Wall Street that you woudn’t care about the cost of storage anymore.

    • Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      6 hours ago

      Give you ‘physical’ forever access and doesn’t take up so much space.

      Some of us figured this out 20 years ago and never turned back. (I figured it out about the time that I realized I had more music in my mp3 collection than the college radio station I volunteered at in 2000.)

      My Cinemageddon account turned 18 earlier this year.

      • MangoCats@feddit.it
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        I’m evolving a “music player” system which basically consists of a fleet of individual players, each with a full copy of the music library because, even at today’s storage prices, why not? Storage for 10,000 songs at higher fidelity than a brand new LP vinyl album costs less (adjusted for inflation) than an album of 8 songs did back in the 1980s, and only 2 of those 8 songs were usually any good…

        So, have a music player in every bedroom, living room, family room, kitchen, car, patio - turn them on when you want, synchronize them when you want - split off and listen to your own playlist when you want - and every player contains a synchronized backup of all the music so you can just drive off with one, go completely off-grid and never interrupt the playlist. The only network traffic is from your phone interface to choose your playlist or synchronize with players nearby - or across the planet.

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          This does sound very attractive. I’ve been trying to get a few family members of of Amazon Alexa’s and this is one of the biggest arguments they give me against it. I’d be curious to hear how far your evolution has come with this. I do have a rather large collection of music mostly from the olden days of piracy but would be interested in some doing some ‘updating’ to the library and the possibility of getting some family further away from Amazon.

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            How “techy” are you? Do you have a couple of Raspberry Pis or similar laying around basically unused? Can you clone a git repo, open an LLM coding agent and get reasonable results out of the chat interface?

            The ultimate goal is to get this 100% AI/LLM free, but for now the LLMs are still doing a lot of the heavy lifting of configuring the target devices to install the player.

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              Techy enough. I self host a bunch of stuff and am more or less comfortable cloning a git repo. I actually curtly have 2 rasp pi’s begging for a job.

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                I’m just about to run my first test of the “echo mode” where each player plays its own local files, synchronized to one player’s play list (a few issues of delay/clock rate synchronization to deal with in that approach). After that, I discovered I need to do a project rename (I’ve duplicated another project name from 2021, so… time for a different name - on 100K lines of stuff…) then remind me and I’ll give you a pointer to the (new, renamed) repo.

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            5 hours ago

            In University, I drilled a hole in my dorm closet wall to my neighbor’s room so we could run a wire between our stereo systems and I could play whatever he was playing through my speakers. This is like that, for the digital-networked age.

  • ikt@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    who could have seen this coming? oh right me

    This is literally capitalism, if you do something people don’t like they are free to choose a product where they get what they want

    In a democracy outside of voting money is your biggest weapon to change

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      6 hours ago

      if you do something people don’t like they are free to choose a product where they get what they want

      That’s ideal capitalism. I find ideal capitalism to be about as real as the concept of “fair” is in adult life.

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      8 hours ago

      no, that’s a competitive market.

      Capitalism historically has usually sought to undermine them - because the only metric of capitalism is return to current holders of capital.

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      8 hours ago

      Nice! I’ll just stop buying this enshittified product/service and switch to—

      …oh, wait. They’re all enshittified.

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          5 hours ago

          I hear you but honestly when I have time to game I just want to sit down and game. I used to have time to do that. Go find the pirated versions, or the cracks, fiddle with it for hours and then finally play. Not to mention the time and money to buy, build, and configure a decent gaming system. I don’t really care for the massively online versions because in my opinion online gaming is just so competitive and toxic so that’s not really an issue for me. All of this combined is why I typically had veered toward consoles. It was just easier. But since I gave up on Xbox and now Sony is pulling this shit, I’m seriously concerned about what options are even available at all, let alone unenshittified versions.

          • 🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞@lemmy.world
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            I’m too lazy to pirate games, but also, I rarely get a new game. I have my stuff on Steam, or like in the case of Simutrans, I just download it directly (although we’re on Steam these days lol - for free). For me, it’s about the media I watch. Which… is still not all that much. heh.

            When I have downloaded a cracked game, most of the time these days it’s pretty easy. At worst, install, run crack, bam. But it might depend on the game.

        • very_well_lost@lemmy.world
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          7 hours ago

          That’s great in theory, but there are tons of essentials that people have to buy to remain employed and/or alive.

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      8 hours ago

      I never stopped collecting physical media luckily 🤭 They will never own my shit

    • EvasiveSpecies@lemmy.world
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      Started this year with CDs, games, vinyl, books and DVDs. Buying second-hand is great too; sure, streaming looks “cheaper” at first glance but I can do with my property what I want and don’t lose it if I can’t afford a subscription, the service goes down or they lose licenses. It’s preservation, too, and if need be can be lent out to others.

      Plus, I’m just discovering the joys of making my own mixtapes and burning CDs. Spotify playlist are… good, of course, but it feels like an actual thing now.

    • SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org
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      10 hours ago

      Does it count as physical if I pirate it then put it on my hard drive? I see no difference to owning DVDs or BluRay disks.

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        8 hours ago

        Technically, but that’s not usually what people mean when they say “physical media”.

        • Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          Too bad, it’s physical media, and people acting like “that’s not what I mean” contributes to this whole idea that data is ephemeral and like it lives in the air or something. No, it all lives on physical media, on drives, somewhere. Just because Netflix streamed it to you doesn’t mean that the movies files don’t live somewhere on physical media. Yeah, you don’t own it, it’s just streaming, but the physical media it exists on still exists, you just don’t have physical access to it (well, technically you do, it’s just little chunks instead of the full film that live on your PC just long enough for the film to play).

          Sorry, this grinds my gears because I think not being clear about physical media including things like hard drives and USB thumbsticks is what contributes to a general lack of understanding of how any of this fucking works and why corporations were able to get away with how they abused “licensing” for so long.

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        There is a difference, and not just a legal one. For DVDs and BluRays, the disc’s first purchase partly funds the people who worked on the disc’s contents. With pirating, nobody gets paid (unless the pirate(s) that is/are distributing the content accept donations).

        Although that does make me wonder how different is buying a second-hand disc from pirating… other than the legal part, that is.

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          Second hand is different from pirating because the royalties have been paid. When it’s sold to the second owner the status of having paid the royalties passes with it. With physical media the disk, tape, or reel and the license to use it privately are the same thing. Otherwise we’d need a system to keep track of who owns every disk, tape, or reel, and who owns the license to each and that’s a sure fire way to get everyone to begin pirating.

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            Basically if a thing has a reliable second hand market, people will be more inclined to buy them.

            DVDs for the longest time had no market, you couldn’t give them away. Now it’s picking up again. Blurays even more so.

        • BobWehadababyitsaboy@lemmy.world
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          Second hand markets help to keep the primary market propped up higher than it otherwise would be. If you can buy something and it retains resale value, then the initial purchase price is more worth it. Whether that balances out with supply/demand and price/sales numbers if there were no resalability is another question.

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    trust me, people are not pissed enough. noone cares about these topics around me.

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      Yeah, it’s the small groups on the edges of these techs that can see it for what it is. Most people are too far removed and refuse to see what world these technologies are creating around us, the prison walls being built.

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      Seriously, I tried talking to a friend about Sony going digital only and how that means you can’t own a game anymore. He just said technically you’ve only ever licensed a game via physical media.

      Which is so far from the point

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      It keeps coming up in my circle once in a while. Usually people complaining about subscriptions. That’s your in.

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        Yup. Doesn’t feel widely popular yet but I think it will increase especially thanks to Sony discontinuing physical releases. My family luckily is getting there too.

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      Exactly. Most people don’t understand the concept of “ownership” in this way. When you try to explain it you may as well be talking about UBI or other mythical crack pot ideas.

      The relevance of these objections is diminishing if anything

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    I’m literally one of those consumers that goes to great lengths to pick devices and appliances so that I really own them. I can tell you that right now it is harder than ever.

    These movements really have to put some weight, otherwise nothing will change.

    • mycodesucks@lemmy.world
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      Thank you.

      “Our continued existence as a publication relies on people being able to freely access information, and there’s a burgeoning movement to actually make people aware of something they’ve been too arsed to bother with for decades. Wrote an artic-”

      “Paywall it.”

      “On it, boss.”

      • brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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        It’s not perfect, no, but what are they supposed to do to keep the lights on? Double down on ads giving everyone malware, that everyone should be blocking anyway?

        …That being said, we have every right to try and bypass the paywall too, heh.

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          They should be a little bit discerning about what they paywall. It won’t kill them make public interest stories of serious value free as a public service.

          • brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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            9 hours ago

            This is true.

            Some sites do this already. Wired may do it; not sure, though you are right in that advocacy posts should make the cut.

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          maybe they should take a class from the 14 yr old influencers keeping the lights on with socials, follows and clicks.

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            …Those “14 year olds” make money with ads, if not by being straight-up product shills. And social media takes most of the cut.

            Also, that’s quite different than sustaining a whole journalism business. There is of course social media centric journalism, and Wired does plenty of that too.

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            Social media isn’t a sustainable model. Yes, there are people that have success in that model, but those people have to sacrifice a lot, especially in the content quality, to acheive that success. Many media companies have already tried it, but the content they produce ends up dissolving into mostly clickbait, because they would fail otherwise.

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      16 hours ago

      Fuck whoever downvoted you. You’re doing great bro. Keep it up.