It would be so easy for me to laugh this off and say, “duh just don’t go to the third world country that is the USA,” but anything they do will spread to other parts of the world.
Maybe wipe an old phone and just have signal to communicate with family until I cross the border? I wouldn’t even mind paying a few bucks to make a new signal account without a phone number.
Looks like it’s time to carry a dummy phone with you if you decide to visit the US. Not really sure why any non-citizens would want to do that at this point though.
Interestingly, iOS 27 has a new “2 phones can share 1 number and you can swap between them” which didn’t seem to make a lot of sense.
What in the what now? Just between apple phones or with android or other OS? Guess I hafta go read…
Haven’t actually tried it but T-Mobile digits supposedly let’s you do what you seek.
https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/iphone-handoff-one-number-two-phones/
But The Apple documentation (https://support.apple.com/en-us/127274) mentions that your iCloud gets synced between both devices, so now I’m confused what the purpose of this is
It’s so you can buy more phones
Dang, I had other ideas!
What you need:
Two devices running iOS 27 or later that are: Connected to Wi-Fi Sharing the same Apple Account Using Messages in iCloud to ensure messages sync Signed into FaceTime and iMessage with the same Apple Account An eSIM from a carrier that supports iPhone Handoff: USA: T-Mobile Germany: Telekom
it makes sense in the backdoor sense. esims. so now uncle sam can “be” that 2nd phone.
Uncle Sam could always be that 2nd phone, the network is ridiculously insecure. It’s so well-known, the spooks didn’t even stop Veritasium from making a video on it. Hell, it doesn’t take a state-level actor either, it takes a motivated individual and that’s pretty much all.
I’m not even sure why would they even need to see your phone.
All these idiots use cloud, just requesting data from iOS/google is sufficient in most cases. I think they don’t even have to ask, they gotta have direct api access.if you decide to visit the US.
There is a lot more reasons not to do that than there are reasons to go there.
I’m in Florida, which is a “stand your ground” state.
You can try that “no warrant” shit here, and you’re gonna get your fucking head blown off
See you in the Supreme Court, motherfuckers
More like see you in the morgue. You could potentially take some fed with you but the state doesn’t like it when people challenge their monopoly on violence.
Ooo, big boy here with the tiny dick who doesn’t know the law.
Come up on my property, and I’ll blow your head off too.
You’d probably blow an acl before you got a shot off
First of all: one tears an ACL, and second: I could shoot ya through a window while sitting in my living room. How in the hell am I gonna tear either of my ACLs while chilling on the couch?
Keep dreaming, buddy
Na, the medical term is “blow” an acl. Keep dreaming Dr Grey
My guy, I agree with you in spirit, but the law has been barely hanging on for a while now. The law won’t protect you from a bunch of SS neonazis with more funding than the fucking Marines when you shoot one. If you haven’t noticed, they’re a bunch of cowards who roll in packs and shoot people for just being too close to them.
You’ll bring one, maybe two with you if you’re quick or they’re lined up all nice, but that’s about it
Heads up: they have more guns than you do, padre. And they will flatten you with a drone swarm before you can shoot anywhere near them. Your plan is 0 out of 10 for sound judgment.
I mean, he’s a idiot, but the fucking military isn’t drone striking citizens EVER.
If enough people got together with their 2nd amendment, it would carry a lot of weight.
Maybe call themselves a militia? Tossing it out there.
Who said military? They’re deploying armed drones (nonlethal for now) in Florida schools, in case of mass shooters. ICE will want their own I’m sure.
https://www.newsweek.com/campus-guardian-angel-school-shooting-drone-2106792
Tell that to Anwar al-Awlaki. US citizen, killed by drone strike.
Ok. The military isn’t drone striking citizens DOMESTICALLY ever.
Nah it’ll be some domestic policing agency. They’ve bombed Americans in the US before: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_MOVE_bombing
“Border Agents”
You pulling a gun out at an airport is suicide.
Are you hallucinating?
There was no border, and there was no airport.
Did you hallucinate that?
Get off the drugs, asshole
Florida is a Border State. ICE do raids at other places including just randomly on the street because of the high population of Latinos and people from South America.
I don’t think you understand that what’s happening is they roll up on people in a van, grab them and don’t announce who or what they are. There’s video all over the Internet of this.
The article isn’t about ice. It specifically says airports
Border Agents are ICE.
Wrong again, dumbass.
Border patrol and ice are two separate agencies.
Dumbass. But continue saying stupid stupid things that are wrong. Go on…
I was not talking to you.
In the US, the boarder is considered anywhere within 100 miles of an international boarder. I.E. Oceans, Lakes that are adjacent to another country and the actual boarder with another country.
Ice agents can setup checkpoints anywhere within this area and search your phone. Since most Americans live near the coasts this “boarder area” covers an 90% of the population.
Nope. This came up a few weeks ago and I checked it very carefully before posting because I thought it was true and was trying to post a map of the border including the airports.
Border patrol can only work near airports.
The 100 mile range near any airport is a myth.
I never once mentioned “airport” in my post.
You may want to better educate yourself on this subject before responding.
Airport?
What is this? 1999?
Back before ICE who has NEVER stayed where they are supposed to be.
And if it’s not them it’s the dogfuckers at nenw FBI.
Of course you live in Florida. Your other comments are all explained. How sad, to treat others the way you do when you get even the barest hint of push back. Does it make you feel less impotent, to call people “asshole” and “cunt” when they weren’t even being rude to you? (The mods have, sensibly, removed those comments, and they may feel free to do so to this one, should they feel that this violates community rules). To paraphrase what you said in a different comment I saw a minute ago: if you can’t take the heat, step away from the fire.
Quit treating other people like the sack of dirt you perceive yourself to be. Do better.
This will really fix that lost tourism problem.
I don’t get it
Also, is this a new sfm video? Is he posting new ones? I don’t recognize it.
At 20 (5+9+6), the Ace turns into a 1. You win the hand at 21.
By asking for another hit, you’re going bust on purpose. Anything over 21 is an automatic loss.
Ohhh. I miscounted by one.
The Knight First Amendment Institute argued as amicus that searching expressive and associational content on phones demands a First Amendment warrant. The Second Circuit rejected that argument, holding that neither the Fourth nor the First Amendment carves out a special exemption for phones at the border.
Wow. Yeah… We all need shitty travel phones with very little on them now. That’s fucking gross.
The Second Circuit rejected that argument, holding that neither the Fourth nor the First Amendment carves out a special exemption for phones at the border.
The second circuit used the right argument but somehow came to the wrong conclusion. The 4th carves out no special exemption, meaning you need a warrant.
Conservatives are pathological liars by nature. They re-define words to suit their immediate needs. Never trust a conservative. Never.
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We all need shitty travel phones with very little on them now.
Or don’t travel there.
I unfortunately live in this cesspool of a country
The Second Circuit rejected that argument, holding that neither the Fourth nor the First Amendment carves out a special exemption for phones at the border.
Could it be because the technology was still 250 fucking years away?
That was my question too…
Or don’t travel with a phone at all. Take a digital camera and use that for pictures.
Anything else, just buy a used phone at your destination and load all your accounts on that, then delete and reset your phone and sell it before you leave
You realize these powers extend within 100 miles of any border?
Doesn’t it also include international airports and waterways?
I don’t know, but if the 100 mile rule applies to international airports and waterways it would probably change that 2/3 of the population to something like 9/10.
Yes it does
Including waterways.
And airports
That’s like most of the populated areas
Take a digital camera and use that for pictures.
They’ll search that too! Take an analog camera instead. At least that way you get the film developed for free ;).
If by “developed” you mean “opened and exposed to the light” then yes
use one that requires a dark room.
As a us citiczen I’m more and more looking at my phone as a hostile device. I have Graphene on one phone and an iPhone, but with how things are going these days who knows how secure these devices really are. Apple iOS is a black box. Android is not much better, and they’re now faster than laptops and most desktops. They can be running and recording and reporting anything and still sip battery life. I’ve since deleted social media apps outside of lemmy and HN. I use my little e-reader more than my phone. All my personal stuff is in encrypted cloud that is not iCloud, I don’t use biometrics to unlock it. But I still don’t trust it. I’m beginning to think carrying it in a foil bag until I need it is a good idea.
I agree, it’s not a tool, it’s a compromised and dangerous device and I have to carry it with me carefully. I have always turned off my location from time to time and carefully managed permissions, but nowadays here’s what I do:
- Graphene
- no biometric login
- no stale data on the device. If I won’t need it while I am mobile, does it need to be on my phone?
- location off, BT off, and airplane mode when going into grocery stores or any surveillance a happy retailer.
- factory wipe or alternate phone before traveling internationally, especially to countries with questionable rule of law, including my own
- minimal non-FOSS apps (getting less every time I redo the phone)
- any app that has a usable web portal or can be accessed on desktop only (Facebook, reddit) does not get installed.
- no pairing with cars or other BT devices that are known to be sketchy.
If I controlled the software on a deeper level, I would set it up to have a toggle where it will only connect to the cell network every 30-60 minutes. There is little in my life that is more important than a half hour response time, so why am I continuously broadcasting my triangulated location? I would have that toggle turned on 90% of the time.
This is nothing new. I don’t agree with it but people are acting like this was rolled out yesterday. Unless we can reverse the supreme court ruling on it, nothing will prevent them from searching phones at airports or within 100 of borders.
This ruling was specific to people entering the country, if you aren’t entering the country they need a warrant still.
Yeah that makes sense. Wasn’t this the status quo anyway?
Just upload an encrypted tarball to a cloud service and retrieve it afterwards.
Yeah I should have added that they need a warrant IF you use a passcode. If you use biometrics they may fall into loopholes that they can search it. Essentially they pretty much own your body when arrested, but not your thoughts. So they can’t make you turn over the code without a warrant. Aka if you are going to get arrested turn off your phone. It makes complete sense that you would want to have battery when you got out of jail 8 hours later or I guess longer if they actually had a charge to pin on you. “Why did you turn off your phone” “to make sure I could call someone to pick me up after I get out or call a cab service”
unless they “mistakenly” think you are a foreigner.
I always hit “Factory Data Reset” before crossing a border, but now they aren’t just at (or nenar) borders.
Time to keep any data on a server, in a jurisdiction that tells the MAGAt motherfuckers where to stuff it.
Sadly hard to find a commercial service. Sync is in Canada, and they’re a compelte joke now that Carney is ruining the place. Tuta is in Germany, and they have AfD running a new Nazi takeover one chunk at a time. Proton is Switzerland which is good… For Citizens. Most of us aren’t Swiss, though.
Honestly we need someone to make a service like Proton, and put it in Iceland…
Which will be good, until that fuckwit Cheeto mistakes it for Greenland and invades.
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You are correct. This is not left vs right. This is the ruling class vs everyone.
Encrypt all your remote hosted stuff!
and not with a managed key.
And NEVER use biometrics
You mean Americaland!
MURICA!
must be accompanied by the scream of a red tailed hawk*.
**The noise made by “bald eagles” in movies is not actually a bald eagle, they sound too wimpy, so they dubbed in another bird.
The pic shows that tiny little guy with the big nazi coat. I thought the tiny little guy with the big nazi coat got fired.
Lol of course not. If you have a big Nazi coat you just get put on paid leave for a little time out, then you get your shiny job right back.
If I’m going down for a meme then you can bet your ass I’ll be doing my best to sink my teeth into some throats like I’m Rick fuckin’ Grimes as soon as my phone is taken. In for a penny in for a pound.
This is what happens when you allow conservatives (fascists) to have control.
This is why it is your responsibility (duty) to do whatever is most likely to prevent that from happening.
Is this part of their tourism strategy?
I believe they are hunting tourist and working on the commercialization thereof.
Are those directing ICE also involved in human trafficking?
Are they involved in anything else?
Fuck ICE and fuck CBP.
Ok, so not entering the country i will.
The pile of reasons to not visit the USA grows daily.
One day I’d like to perform at Carnegie Hall…
