• Jiral@lemmy.world
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      18 hours ago

      Tell us, how does “stuff work”? What up and running alternatives do the US have to ASML machines for latest generation high performance silicon? No matter where.

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        15 hours ago

        Look at asml client. Either us or Taiwan. They can’t skip that market. U dont have alternative to asml yet but asml has no alternative for client either. Also fab are long term devlopement thoses contract are already lock. And asml play by american rule regarding ban export and so more. Asml is never gonna ban the us. The us can but it serve them no purpose. Asml is a public traded company. If u think they gonna loose their biggest client… Idk what to say but that s unreal

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          11 hours ago

          ASML plays by US rules as long as things don’t escalate badly. Your arguments only work during nice weather. When things get tough, ASML is squarely located in the EU and will comply with local laws and law enforcement. That is a substantial risk for the US if it were to go for all out economic warfare, like forcing Microsoft to boycott EU customers.

          Of course ASML has no interest in such a thing, nor does Microsoft. The Single Market is a very big market for Microsoft. Also, blowing it up would not just pulverise that market, it would lead to a collapse of most of the business outside of the US in the mid term.

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            10 hours ago

            So first part of your argument is saying it can happen and second part is saying why it won’t happen. Yeah I agree it won’t happen. And ms sell service wich isn’t the same as the fucking lithography that power everything advanced under the sun.

            Ps : second time you intervenir on my comment to say I’m right by prefacing I’m wrong. Kinda funny. Waiting for the third time