TikTok users have been deleting the app at a higher rate since the company announced that its U.S. operations would be housed in a new joint venture.
The short-form video platform’s daily average app uninstalls in the U.S. have increased nearly 150% over the past five days compared with the previous three months, market intelligence firm Sensor Tower told CNBC.
Mwahahaha!!
Wow. That is a giant number. The change made was not good.
If previously there we 1’000 uninstalls per day, not there are 1’500. Relative numbers like that are useless.
If they’re “up 150%” then it’s now 2500.
No, your example is only a 50% increase. A 150% increase of 1000 is 2500.
I did not specify the % so I am save :3
Assuming cnbc clickbait headlines can math of course. Bold assumption.
My comment wasn’t about the article, it was about the other commenter’s bad math. But the article does actually say it increased by 150%.
Yup, my comment wasn’t about your good math, it was about my low expectations of the source :)
Good. Fuck TikTok.
Deleted it. My wife then naturally sent me a DM of a thing asking if I could build it cheaper. Reinstalled to see the video, then deleted again.
There are a lot of content creators there I enjoyed but c’est la vie.
You can kinda use it to watch a single video on firefox on android, but you have to log in (that’s my experience)
I never had to log in ever when looking at TikTok videos nnt friends sent. Live streams though have to log in.
If you’re on iOS there are add-ins and such so that the link opens in mobile view in safari without issue.
That’s what I use to view my wife’s TikTok videos she sends me still after I deleted the app.
This is now a right wing propaganda machine. I deleted awhile ago.
Several social media posts pointed to language in the new policy that describes the types of data TikTok may collect, including sensitive information such as “your racial or ethnic origin” as well as “sexual life or sexual orientation, status as transgender or nonbinary, citizenship or immigration status, or financial information.”
Despite the social media uproar, that language does not appear to be new. An archived version of the policy from August 2024 includes the same provisions.
It was always a rightwing propoganda machine, it helped Trumo get elected.
Now its 50% Blue Fascist in addition to the Red Fascist.
We will see 100% of tiktok users uninstall. Even 200%, 300% 400% up to 500% and more including 600%. Percents like no one has seen.
Breaking News: TikTok user counts plummet into negative numbers!
Meanwhile https://joinloops.org/ and https://joinpeertube.org/ keep getting better and better
Hopefully more creators will take notice and at least crosspost their content on better platforms too.
…We can’t keep doing this, guys
fingers to temples
The fucking top is formatted right, then this lmao. We look like ass at first impression. I’m on a Oneplus 11. Is this fringe hardware?
What browser are you using? It works fine for me on Android Firefox. Even with JavaScript disabled.
I think it might be because you are using an embedded browser window in whatever lemmy app you are using. When I go in through firefox mobile it looks fine.
Ah ha! Yes, this was voyager’s fault.
False alarm!
but that looks like an embedded firefox, in custom tabs mode. I think it’s common for apps to open links in your default browser that way.
for the one peertube server i wanted to follow something on, i couldnt figure out how to point the peertube ios app to an arbitrary peertube server. seems not in the fediverse spirit
The web instances work pretty well, that’s a shame the iOS app didn’t work for you. I’m only a consumer not a producer of video content so I interact with a fedi microblogging platform instead of having an account on a peertube platform itself. The Android app seemed okay but following users with RSS and interacting via my microblogging account, as well as directly checking my favorite platforms’ sites occasionally for serendipity seems to work the best for me.
I’m sure with the fundraising blitz the apps will get better too this year.
Now you can see 30 of the same reposted tiktok spam blasting low quality live music instead of 10!
Oh well I guess it doesn’t matter anyway because if you try to update the app anyway it just downloads an invalid APK lol
If you are uninstalling, you can try the federated alternative: loops
I like it 😃
Cool to see how much loops has grown even just in the last year. It gets more and more viable as an alternative all the time. Love seeing the fediverse continue to grow
It must be really demanding in terms of hardware and network to host video content like tiktok. I wonder if the fediverse voluntaries will be able to keep up with it if the userbase grows too much
I downloaded it. It’s very barren right now, no more than a few comments per post, if any. Hopefully it gains some traction
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Think of it as an exclusive club where your content has a higher chance of being seen by elite users
I don’t see how few comments is a bad thing? Do you really sit and scroll through the vile idiocy that is tiktok comments? Nowhere does more comments etc. mean it’s better. If anything less people is good.
Do you not see the irony in replying to my comment in order to comment that comments are full of vile idiocy?
If anything less people is good.
Maybe get off social media, then
Kinda like fediverse in general. That’s the price of a non-corpo platform
ive poked around on there over the past year or so. not much to see and often quite broken.
what client do you use? it seems as if it even removed your own default upvote, maybe it’s the thing that is broken
I always un-upvote myself. I tried the latest loops client, it’s way more performant than it used to be. id say the only thing i didnt like about it was the overlap in the feeds and the wrap-around feeds. if it’s out of content, it should just say so.
It was like that here when Reddit
fellcaused people to leave and look for something better. Give it time, and interact!It’s still kinda like that here.
I think its mostly because of lurkers, but also, I first joined on midwest.social then something broke the feed and caused a bunch of federation issues. Now this is my “alt” but I can’t see content from piracy@dbzero or whatever now
lemmy.world had blocked and then unblocked a bunch of piracy communities two years ago, that community being one of them
But it looks like lemmy.world is currently not federating that piracy one specifically, maybe I missed another announcement
I can’t see content from piracy@dbzero or whatever now
Does that include comments?
No, I see comments just fine, but the community is blocked
Oof, this still isn’t up on F-Droid or either main app store. That’s a shame, I thought this moment would be a great time for Loops to get some user base, but it seems like it’s still not ready for wider adoption.
That said, it does look a lot better now than it did a few months ago when I last tried it. Here’s hoping it picks up some momentum. I finally tried TikTok last year, and was really impressed by the breadth of videos and how quickly it was able to start showing me things I enjoyed. With the recent change in ownership, I don’t know that I’ll revisit it much if at all. Would take quite a lot to replicate even a little bit of the zeitgeist TikTok had going. But like with Lemmy and Mastodon/Bsky, I’m hoping I can do my little part by choosing where to put my attention. Just don’t know that I’m going to find much there I care to see, for now.
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I feel like I remember the tankies saying something about there being no potential issues with using TikTok. Has there been any reaction in the triad?
The issues with tiktok started in 2020 when Trump threatened to ban it after they organized RSVPing one of his rallies and he performed in a mostly empty stadium.
Tiktok responded by hiring state department ghouls to oversee moderation, then 2020 popped off and they clamped down even harder.
There were never issues with the chinese government. The issue was always with the US government.
the issues with tiktok started when it was first announced. It’s sad that it got “heroified” through the gaza events
Which issues are you talking about? That it collects as much data as Insta and Snapchat?
But you don’t hear shit about those two, because 1. They’re owned by US companies who handed user data to the US from day 1 and 2. They were never used for organizing against the regime.
The issues I’m talking about is that the US was influencing the algorithm.
Tiktok was THE platform for pro-gaza content and solidarity. Leaks from Congress proves this. It’s a shell of what it once was now that the US oligarchs are in control of it and have turned it into their right wing spyware platform.
Blocked for unironically using the word ‘tankie’.
I mean, you guys have legitimately genocidal folks like yogthos that your admins pat on the head as they bludgeon their way through every conversation with 4chan speak. I do not respect you enough to feel offended by your absence. If you don’t like the word, sort out your tankie users.
Thanks for the generous proportions, I guess.
- What genocide is that?
- Do you deny the genocide of white South Africans. Because you should. Not every genocide accusation is true, and false ones should in fact be denied.
- Previously.
- Previously.
Armenian and Bosnian.
I genuinely have no clue about the goings on of any African nation, besides Kenya. And mostly just the soccer bits through a coworker. I wish I were informed enough to engage with you on what seems to be an accusation, but if something’s happened in South Africa and it doesn’t involve musk’s weird intrafamilial spouse trading family, I probably don’t know about it.
Your link’s dead
I don’t see yogthos in this, so I don’t- wait, you misunderstood. I said yogthos was a fan of genocide, not either of you admins. No, both you and your fellow dev just seem sleep starved and politically hugboxxy, not genocidey. Which you’re allowed to be, you made the site and it seems to take a lot of your time.
Though I wish you’d define the political hugbox a bit more explicitly in the sidebar. Banning for inobvious rules will always produce animosity from new users. You’re not doing yourselves any favors by hiding it behind euphemisms.
The only person I know who ever denied the Armenian genocide was Cenk Uygur, which he later walked back.
An Bosnian genocide is much more controversial. That the Srebrenica massacre constituted genocide had been refuted by a number of scholars, including Noam Chomsky, Edward Herman, and Michael Parenti.
I get that you want to stand by your most loyal users and political theory, but jfc
I get that you want to stand by the anticommunist propaganda, but jfc.
Ok tankie
Ok fascist
Well hold on, I’m neither of these things, but isn’t tankie a communist thing? And if so, why would somebody calling a duck a duck automatically be a fascist? Unless, is anybody that is not a communist a fascist?? I thought fascists were auth right, specifically?
Tankie is a pejorative for communists that gets unilaterally branded onto people by anti-communists. I’m happy to declare people using it unironically to be fascists, and if you don’t agree with that, well, tough luck, you were the one who started throwing around snarl words
I think you’re missing my question. I’m asking you if communists actually consider all non communists to be fascists. I’m genuinely unsure.
No. They don’t
Blocked for unironically using the word ‘tankie’
Lmao
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Good
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It was the same brand of red fascism before and after. Algorithm and databases still in Beijing, a few days ago the backup on Oracle went online.
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Yeah exactly. 150% is good. 1500% would be better.
100% of users is best
600 per cent of users
I feel old every time I share that I’ve never installed TikTok and don’t have an account.
In many ways, I feel a bit like I am still forced to ambiently and peripherally and use the app when interacting with the rest of social media and society. Because the damn format, and culture, and way of thinking and producing videos has seeped so deep into all aspects of our lives.
The whole mode of consuming media in an algorithmic flipbook like that weirds me out. I don’t understand how anyone can enjoy being enticed to watch videos in the way TikTok promotes.
I feel you on that. Even not being on xyz social trend of the day you still get exposed to the mentality of it by the people that are. To some extent that’s fine, but it can get old really quickly.
I don’t want to doom scroll all day and night. I don’t want to socialize on media and follow people or have followers. Random people are not my entertainment. I don’t need my phone in my hand 24/7.
My take is that I will live my life by my culture. If people see me be me and follow my example, great. If people think I’m a weirdo, oh well I’ll just go do my own thing.
I don’t feel old.
I just feel correct and justified in never installing a foreign weapon which exposes every contact, photo, nearby device, and message to an evil dictatorship that wants us all dead in a fire (up to 2 dictatorships now).
Yeah, I strayed away from tiktok and before that facebook, instagram, Twitter. Social media that encourages many users to forgo their privacy and share their faces and voices just always seemed like red flags.
Tiktok was lit until late 2020, when they really started clamping down on subversive content at the behest of the US.
I find it funny that millions of people had no problem with an evil foreign government like the CCP, that’s well known for collecting data for military purposes and spending mind boggling amounts on propaganda campaigns, controlling the app, but now draw the line at some Silicon Valley billionaire doing essentially the same thing.
I never liked the short content format so I never had an interest downloading TikTok, but I knew that I would never, ever download it when I learned that this Chinese app is actually banned in China. They a have a separate clone of this app that’s exclusive to China that uses a different algorithm that promotes positive and educational content. The fact that billions of people use this shitty weaponized piece of Chinese spyware is depressing, especially when the Fediverse exists.
Well for starters - The United States government is kicking in doors around my area right now.
The CCP would have to travel many thousand miles to kick in my door.
That’s a false sense of security. The CCP doesn’t need to kick down your door to weaponize your data. It should be common sense to not trust an authoritarian regime.
OK, as an American in the USA, what is the worst China can do to me with my “weaponized data” that is the equivalent of me being tracked down and summarily executed a death squad which is the worst thing that the Trump regime can do with my data. It’s not that I trust the Chinese government. I just don’t care about them right now because my country is being destroyed by Nazis.
What a load of bootlicking crap.
It’s very simple, if you’re willing to go to such lengths to defend China using spyware, collecting your data, and using it as they please… then why not go use Chinese social media yourself? If you think China is a non threat and all the concerns people have about it are fugazi, then why not go use their platforms? They’re bigger, have way more content, way more users, and they’re better developed than the Fediverse… again why you here if you don’t value things like privacy, freedom, ownership, and control over your data? It sounds to me like you have inconsistent values.
What is wrong with you? Are you even a person? Did you actually read what I said? Because this is boiler plate bot shit “why you defend China” (when I was fucking talking about the PRC’s support of the Cambodian Genocide?) is getting very tiresome.
Get some new material or go home. Fucking pathetic. It’s worse than talking to MAGA Nazis.
But didn’t you know they’re occupying our cities! They’re killing innocent civilians and rounding up black and brown and indigenous civilians and forcing them into camps!
No, wait. That’s the us government. My bad.
China is harvesting our data and weaponizing it! You see they’re taking the data and umm… sharpening it into punji sticks or something.
Look what ever they’re doing it’s evil and bad. And way worse than our home grown Palantir genocide machine.
You can’t worry about your taxes when your house is on fire man.
yes you can, if tomorrow you’ll be thrown in jail for your taxes
You’re missing the point.
China might use your data and hurt you in some far future, whereas the USA will use your data right now in a direct and violent way.
I can explain how the US government having access to the database of all of TikTok’s data might directly result in a visit from ICE. The path to damage caused by China may exist too, but is much more nebulous, and much more difficult for China to execute on.
Yes, if you are in a government position, or in the army, you probably shouldn’t use TikTok under China’s management. But Joe Schmoe from California has little to materially fear from them. But he does have reason to fear the USA government who might well come over and arrest him.
I think we agree on that. my point is, we don’t need to use neither usa tech or chinese tech for our social media platforms. we shouldn’t celebrate china being there “to save us”.
also, I think china could still hurt us, on the short term, by manipulating elections and other things through manipulating public opinion and the values people hold. they have both the data and the channels to execute it.
if you’re still scared of china at this point the propaganda has unfortunately broken through and taken root in your brain stem, i’m sorry, there’s very little any of us can do to help you
my point is, we don’t need to use neither usa tech or chinese tech for our social media platforms. we shouldn’t celebrate china being there “to save us”.
You are right, we don’t need either but you are already preaching to the choir as you are here in the fediverse.
Your horse were not on fire when TikTok got introduced en masse.
So yeah, look for excusses
It’s been on fire a long time buddy.
That’s a false dichotomy. I’m not going to suddenly spread my ass for a shitty authoritarian regime like the CCP because the US government is going through it. If you want to lube up for Chinese spyware and data collection then that’s on you. Personally, I’m not going to let a fallacious false binary like this cloud my judgement, I’ll always strive to own, protect, and control my data from governments, corporations, or whoever.
Based on recent evidence, maybe the CCP > US Government.
that does not make them good, but fortunately we don’t have to accept either, right?
evil forefinger government
Okay well first that typo is staying, second I used to be minorly involved in politics (by which I mean fundraising for a homeless shelter feels and smells a lot like politics even if your goals are more altruistic) and I learned one valuable thing. The right thing morally and the right thing politically are rarely the same, and when it looks like they are you should investigate closer and reevaluate because you’re probably missing something important. That’s why government is almost always evil.
Respectfully, the CCP has been less of a direct threat than the US government as of late and most dont trust the government so why would they trust the propaganda? This isnt to say the CCP isnt a problem but are they as much of a direct threat to American citizens than ICE and such?.. ICE has now murdered more than one citizen in cold blood.
P.S. People need more education as to what the Fediverse is but until then they will always go with whats easier to use and access.
and most dont trust the government so why would they trust the propaganda?
because visually it’s not coming from the government but “independent content creators”. and regardless of who says it, people will trust propaganda that says things they want to hear, then over time, start trusting those who say that
That’s such a nonsensical take. Because you don’t trust the US government, you’re go to thought is to hand over your data to an opaque authoritarian regime like the CCP? What kind of a bullshit false dichotomy is that? Fuck that, my data is my data. It doesn’t belong to any government, corporation, or anybody who isn’t me or someone that I explicitly give consent to use my data. That’s the principled take.
No, I am just explaining to you why people have used it. Humans do human things… being upset at it wont change the why. Citizens are terrified of the current threat. Not one miles away. Humans are wired to react to immediate danger.
I still disagree with that notion. That’s not normal human behavior. You’re making it sound as if people can only process the top immediate threat and disregard the rest. But that’s not humans work. Humans are able to have and process multiple threats at once. If what you’re saying is true then nobody would care about what’s going on in Ukraine, Iran, or Gaza because these conflicts are so far away… yet so many people do even though they face problems in their home countries that are much closer, more imminent, and have greater impact on their daily lives… like inflation or climate change or increased government tyranny.
The point is that it doesn’t make sense from a logical point of view to reject a shitty government for being authoritarian and then disregard another shitty government that’s also authoritarian, if not more so. A rational person does process both as being threats for similar reasons. That’s a consistent and principled take. The one and only reason why one would cozy up to one over the other is because of ignorance, which is precisely what I think is going on here.
psst hey kids. wanna try out some fediverse?
Let them form their video version while we keep our text and I’ll have one less shit to flip
Don’t we have that?
fuck if i know i’m a texto
Pixelfed I think? Though it’s developed by the same guy as whatever the Instagram clone is called so it’s been kind of slow to become usable?
pixelfed is the instagram clone im pretty sure, loops is the tiktok clone
They use social media in hopes of becoming influencers themselves to get the bag, or follow big influencers because they have a huge emotional attachment to them.
I don’t think fediverse is going to have appeal because they aren’t in it just to have a site to have conversations or see material.
The very foundation of it having to be where the most visible and popular people are is the whole draw of social media for them. Not pseudoanonynous usernames posting comments.
the fediverse has twitter instagram and tiktok analogues, which could theoretically offer these things (which i think is a normie problem, not just a young people problem)
i think they’d appreciate a freer platform for that since they seem to be leaving tiktok in droves.
Yeah, they theoretically could, but even getting reddit users moving over to the fediverse has been a challenge and reddit type social is basically an old school forum with a different UI.
When it comes to tiktok, twitter, Instagram type social media I think the main draw is getting the most views possible and going viral and getting followers, which leads to them wanting to be where all the famous people are and all the companies are.
It’ll appeal to those who want to escape corporatized sites, but I don’t think it’ll appeal to core users, since they want that large audience and followers. That they would use those sites to begin with that had privacy red flags makes it a big challenge, since they are willing to give that up in exchange for attention.
we do have to collectively figure it out somehow though. a lot of current society’s problems trace back to social media.
and well, that responsibility is on our kinda people right now.
Think we’ve learned most people are easily impressionable or hateful or both with how easily they get swept up in things that disturb us, and its unfortunately a minority that aren’t despite being no more privileged, educated, or smarter than peers.
I guess its kind of like gambling as an example where no matter how much people try and dissuade others from falling into it their attempts fall on deaf ears to the majority actions. And its not that people who don’t fall into it are smarter.
Sometimes the issue is that the vast collective is just already set on their own course of action, and we’re just taken along for the ride due to their vast numbers and drowned out.
if people are impressionable, they can be swayed. it just feels immovable because it takes time, but culture can and does change.
someone else had to convince them the landscape we are in was worth investing into, it was just not with words but fame, dopamine and a bit of cash. we could probably make freedom from corporations more compelling, because it is quite compelling.
Its easier to sway people in the worse direction with more perceived benefits than the more difficult or less appealing ideologically better option.
