- cross-posted to:
- selfhosted@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- selfhosted@lemmy.world
I recently discovered yunohost, a French project for easy selfhosting. Does anyone have experience with that?
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Des, it has, what most others lack: Single Sign In and many Apps.
I’ve used it when I started out and it’s good, I can recommend it if you just want something where you can hit install and it works. I just use docker containers now though because I have more experience and it allows to set everything up exactly how I want.
Same process here, started with yunojost and now using docker directly. Still Yunohost got me into self-hosting when I didn’t know anything about it, definitely recommended for starting out.
yunotryityourself?
Elena Rossini (@_elena@mastodon.social) is a journalist who’s gotten into the fediverse and self hosting with Yuno Host. She’s documented it on her blog. It’s worked out really well for her.
Looks good. But I got burnt with CasaOS. Only App organizer I still use is dockge.
+1 for dockge. But that’s something for later. Yunohost is a great way to get a feeling for selfhosting.
what do you meant with burnt? i thought its even easier than yunohost?
Burnt my fingers. It’s not enough freedom for changing compose settings. But that’s just my two cents.
thats true. when I tried it I even found it more difficult because of the limite. you must trust the scripts and if something does not work its a lot more complicated than setting it up by yourself.
Used for years, then moved into docker containers.
It’s pretty rad, especially as a domain controller.
Yunohost is okayish. Some apps sadly are badly maintained and therefore upgraded with more delay than I considered acceptable (but that has improved afaik)and integration into a single “look and feel” is a bit lacking. Nevertheless it’s solid in the end.
If you are willing to pay something Cloudron may be an alternative for you as well - very well maintained product, good support team and rock solid from my experience - and it’s a non-US/non-China company. (German to be exact) But it costs money for more than 2 applications. I nevertheless went with them - I don’t self host as a hobby, I self-host because I want shit to work. Between job and family I have no time to fiddle around with things and keep everything updated on a short notice. I have project where I can do that, but they are not something my family or myself depend on. (And they integrate nicely with Cloudron as you can add “custom” Apps/use it as a proxy and OpenID Provider)
Nice! I live in Germany and your situation looks similar to mine. I started with Linux 20 years ago and bought a Synology about a year ago. I have my most essential services (backup, photos, Media server and paperless) running on that machine in my local network. I started with a small VPS and a blog after this, to see if I could handle managing a server. It went well.
We have a small cabin we share with others and I wanted to set up some basic services like a calendar. Went across a post about yunohost and gave it a try.
Have a look at Cloudron as well,then. It’s free for 2 Apps and Johannes (the founder) is a fairly nice guy from Bavaria.
Anyway,yeah. I have a different post here what I self host (which doesn’t even include everything…) so it’s a slippery slope.
I did some testing with it, because I believe more people should be able to self-host.
I like how it is implemented. It has good support for email. Many apps support SSO.
The critical part to me is how up-to-date applications are. I started a small project to automate version tracking, check out:
https://alexpdp7.github.io/selfhostwatch/app/nextcloud.html
; so for example, the YunoHost Nextcloud app does not lag much behind upstream. My intention with this is to let people see that they have been updating Nextcloud dilligently for two years; they might pull the plug tomorrow, but it’s a good track record.
(I’d like to add scrapers to other projects similar to YunoHost. My ultimate goal would be to be able to choose a list of apps you’d like to self-host, and see which projects like YunoHost carry the applications you want, and compare how they track updates.)
I had the same experience as many here. Great place to start out and if you don’t need or want more control then it’s perfect. I ended up on unraid and mostly use docker for apps.
For my vps i use yunohost and for selfhosting from Synology to unraid now. Yunohost is very time saving with subdomain and security Management.
Been using it for 10+ years. Love it.
Umbrel, Cosmos Cloud, Caprover, Yacht, Dokku, there’s a billion of these things.
If I host a website on Yunohost can I push the files from Codeberg to it using git?
I think this is not possible to configure just with yunohosting standard tools. My guess would be you would not need yunohost to do so. I have a blog made with a static site generator and I just push the whole output to a directory under /var/www. Plus there is an nginx running as Webserver and to redirect traffic to subdomains.
I thought that I would need Yunohost to take care of all the web hosting stuff in the back ground…? Are you saying to just push files into the VPS barebones, or into Yunohosts website app shell? (Sorry I’m new to VPS stuff).
And how would you push the files from Codeberg? what is the method?
A minimal setup would be:
- your VPS with an installed operating system like Debian 12 or Ubuntu 24(?).
- a Webserver, which accepts http(s) requests from a browser.
You configure your VPS to be able to access it via ssh, login, install a Webserver like nginx, Apache or others, configure the server to point requests to your IP or domain to a local directory on your server (e.g. /var/www/yoursite on Linux), write some hello world html file, copy that file via scp to /var/www/yoursite, voilá – you just created a (very simple) website.
If you want a little more bling bling you could use a static site generator. See https://jamstack.org/generators/
With a SSG you would initialize your site on your local machine, write some markdown and put in in your site generators folder structure and run the command to create the html files from the markdown. The output is normally a specific folder you could then copy to your server, as mentioned above. Or you could set up git on your server and use git commit and git push to push changes to your server. This is what you had in mind.
I find it easier to just use a graphical client software like Cyberduck to drag and drop the whole static site generator output to my server.
Never heard of it till now, now I’m going to try it out!
Big part of me loving selfhosting stuff is that I get to learn things a lot. I think it’s pretty amazing that these sort of projects exist but I’ll always use good ol’
$BASIC_SERVER_OS.
