Some 125 Indian and Pakistani fighter jets battled for over an hour in one of the biggest dogfights in recent history, according to a Pakistani security source quoted by CNN.
If the numbers of aircraft were confirmed, it would make it one of the largest air battles since World War Two.
Some 125 Indian and Pakistani fighter jets battled for over an hour in one of the biggest dogfights in recent history, according to a Pakistani security source quoted by CNN.
A total of 125 fighter jets engaged in an hour-long aerial battle, with both sides confined to their own airspace as long-range missiles were exchanged at distances surpassing 100 miles, CNN said.
So no dogfight at all. Thanks, Newsweek.
Yeah, ‘aerial battle’ would have been the term I used, but hey since when are journalists supposed to know what words mean?
I suppose it is technically possible there could have been some actual close range dog fighting in this giant battle, lots of jets involved still have actual guns, as well as less long ranged and less accurate missiles…
On the other hand:
Holy fuck.
125 aircraft engaged in essentially one gigantic battle?
That is totally unprecedented in the modern era.
Derp, they covered this in the article
The only things I can think of that come close to that scale are uh… Desert Shield in the Gulf War, but that was massively one sided in the US’s favor, we pretty much completely surprised the Iraqi Air Force and destroyed most of their aircraft while they were on the ground…
I can’t think of any like… post jet aircraft era battle that involves more than 50 aircraft at the same time in the same battle.
Ok, had to look this up: ‘Black Friday’ in the Korean War, jets, but no missiles… the Battle of El Mansoura, Israel v Egypt 1973, involved around 200 total aircraft, Operation Mole Cricket B, Israel v Syria 1982, again about 200 total aircraft… and thats basically it.
So, uh, anyway… Pakistan and India both have nukes, and as best I can tell, both have threatened to use them is things escalate… so… uh… yeah…
Apparently there is a cease fire, apparently Trump is taking credit for it, apparently it has already been violated?
I am watching India Today’s livestream and they are currently saying Pakistan has and is currently still violating the ceasefire, and I have little doubt the Indians are as well.
EDIT: Former Indian Secretary MEA is basically saying Trump’s ‘ceasefire’ is complete bullshit, that India and Pakistan reached their own ceasefire, and though it seems like its falling apart, the other point here is that neither Pakistan nor India are paying any attention to Trump, they have no idea what he is talking about, they have not agreed to anything mediated by the US.
Dogfight as in two dogs barking each other with a fence in the middle… 😅
world war iii is dumb and i find myself realizing the start of world war i surely felt like this, too
The dumb cycle rolls on. Let’s hope humanity can break it some day.
when the cuttlefish read the historic record of what happened in our era they’re gonna think our species was so stupid, and they’re going to wonder whey their ancestors only lived for a year when they clearly had things more figured out than us
When I travelled India a decade ago I shared a cabin on a 24 hour train journey with the head of the Indian air force and his father, the former head of the Indian air force, who flew jets in the last Indo-Pakistan war.
That’s my story. Thanks for listening.
Did you talk about anything interesting?
We actually talked mostly about South African politics. It was a month before Mandela passed away. They were fascinated to hear about living in SA.
I’m a little surprised that they would share a cabin with a tourist.
And it was a second class cabin. I was equally surprised. They seemed very humble though.
The “dog fight” between Pakistani and Indian fighter jets, which Pakistani officials say downed five Indian planes, was one of the “largest and longest in recent aviation history,” a senior Pakistani security source told CNN. The Pakistani claim has not been corroborated and could not be immediately verified by Newsweek.
5 planes downed would be a lot, I wonder what the actual count is.
One Indian plane is already confirmed by France and US claims 2 were down by Chinese jets of Pakistan
Though in all fairness this is mostly meaningless as it’s just random missile throwing rather than a real engagement
Mmm yes, missiles aren’t REAL fighting. It only counts if you do it traditionally — pilots shooting at each other with pistols from their open cockpits.
If you would read the article maybe youd avoid this brain rot and actually understand what is said. The alarm bells are ringing about plane models and capabilities but in reality that’s all irrelevant as they just carry missiles of the ground.
One U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said there was high confidence that Pakistan had used the Chinese-made J-10 aircraft to launch air-to-air missiles against Indian fighter jets - bringing down at least two.
The air-to-air missiles were carried off of the ground isn’t the flex you think it is. There’s definitely brain rot going on here but I’m pretty sure it’s not me.
Still whooshing here bro but whatever have a day.
Dawg that’s how BVR fights work.
It’s still a dogfight, you don’t just sit there and let the missile do all the work.
Even before the crazy new range of China’s PL-15, PAF was using AIM-120s and shot down a MiG-21 5 years ago.
Every airforce hides their tactics but you can open any DCS video using BVR missiles to see how difficult it can get
Fun stuff
I think we can start calling this whole global situation WW3 now.
Top Gun: The Musical
This headline is like saying there was “a big brawl between two neighboring schools” when in reality it was just kids throwing rocks over the fence.
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