Bootstraps, folks! Microsoft is basically BEGGING you to try Linux, and it’s now easier than ever - even easier than installing Windows!
Unfortunately the inevitable enshitification of our lives by capitalism will continue, even if we remove it from our lives as much as we are able.
What microsoft does to its products, it also does to our governments and civil liberties, social media does to society and democracy, data brokers do to privacy, zillow does to housing security, wallstreet does to economic mobility and financial regulations, etc, etc, etc.
you know, i always wondered why of all places to attack, they chose the twin towers. starting to understand it now.
The twin towers made a ton of sense:
- lots of people in a small area
- symbol of America’s dominance of trade
- iconic buildings in the heart of perhaps the most iconic American city
yep, and tons of other reasons, too. i agree with everything you said, but i say that the largest contributor might sound a bit controversial… it all comes down to “kids these days”. or maybe not, but i still think it’s a major component.
edit - i forgot to mention that ‘kids these days’ goes back as far as written time
edit2 - i’m sorry - i’m totally butchering my point.
https://www.discovermagazine.com/mind/why-weve-been-hating-on-kids-these-days-for-thousands-of-years
Yeah, but non profits are bullshit in almost every instance. From the guy running a women’s homeless shelter near me that has 6 rooms but never has more than 2 occupied, one 9f which has lived there for years and seems very “friendly” with the guy running it, while he denies everyone else that tries to get in the place, but keeps collecting money, to all the large non profits that pay their people running it hundreds of thousands a year.
are you sure you replied to the right comment? i know crack isn’t cheap, so i’d like to try my best to save you the bandwidth
is there a c/rareinsults yet?
because this belongs there!
LibreOffice
And perfectly working software that covers whatever else MS365 offers, e.g. Thunderbird
I’d love for more people to change to Linux, but these are all (also) Windows software.
Yeah office isn’t the what orgs care about losing with this change. Business premium was the lowest cost license option available to non-profits that allowed access to identity management using entra.
That’s the real story here.
Identity and access management ensures that the right people, machines, and software components get access to the right resources at the right time. First, the person, machine, or software component proves they’re who or what they claim to be. Then, the person, machine, or software component is allowed or denied access to or use of certain resources.
So that’s what’s that called. Is that also what tracks who access what and when?
Yeah. Entra is basically the cloud version of Active Directory, it lets you use SAML to build single sign on systems that use your Microsoft account as the identity provider
And if you need it in a browser, there is Collabora, which exists as a paid business version with support or a free non-support version, that can easily be deployed with Nextcloud. Another alternative would be CryptPad.
If you also need your mails in your browser, there are multiple providers like mailbox.org that offer mail encryption even through the online mail interface.
Sometimes I find myself annoyed by Lemmy users. We love to tout foss alternatives, even when they don’t work as well, or aren’t nearly as polished.
Libre office is a different story, it has everything you’ll need, it’s really complete, it does everything you want and it can read any format you throw at it and save its output in any format you need. It launches faster than Microsoft office, it’s more stable, I really have absolutely no complaints, everyone should be using it.
Does it support macros?
Yeah it does. I’ll be honest, I don’t use spreadsheets much so I don’t have personal experience with it, but yeah it does support that.
I was curious, so I followed up on this. Here’s what a quick Google search turned up:
To open an XLSM file in LibreOffice Calc, you can generally open it directly. However, you might need to save it in a different format (like ODS) to ensure compatibility, especially if you’re dealing with macros. LibreOffice Basic is not directly compatible with Excel VBA macros, so you may need to rewrite the macros to use LibreOffice Basic.
In other words, you may need to save your Excel documents as open document files, but after that their macros should work just as they did. Either way, macros are supported and in fact there are a few different scripting languages you can use.
GNOME Evolution is also a good outlook alternative and am pretty sure it was made as a open source alternative to outlook
Has it gotten a makeover yet? Last time I used it ~3 years ago it still looked like it was built in the early 90s.
It was functional, not a complaint about that. The super old design just got on my nerves.
Depends on the GTK theme ig?
I use evolution! It has some advantages over thunderbird but afaik it’s *nix only.
yeah the only downside
And if you need a more MS Office like feel: Use Softmaker.
I wish I had fuck you money. I’d use it to bankroll the development of LibreOffice and all the other alternatives to MS365 and get them integrated. Then I’d start a massive training program to teach people how to use them.
I wish LibreOffice would do what OnlyOffice did and update their interface to something more modern. That, or I wish OnlyOffice would stop being so Russian.
Yesterday, I finally talked my parents into canceling MS356 and switching to LibreOffice and Thunderbird.
Now, the excessive subscription fees for MS365 goes to them instead.
If Microsoft keeps this up, I might even manage to persuade them to switch to Linux at some point.
Thankfully libreoffice
Microsoft has no soul. I’m going to guess that Google will follow suit. There is no class solidarity quite like corporate class solidarity. Fuck all these companies.
lame. The web versions suck.
I thought from the headline that it was just a downgrade to Business Standard, no this is to Business Basic! That’s a huge yikes, it’s so much harder to be productive in those web versions.
I honestly would not be surprised if users work out installing LibreOffice et al. so they can still have a desktop app experience because of this move.
So that’s why Gates said he would donate money once he dies
I don’t trust any of these “giving pledges” upon death. In name, their fortunes will pass on to nonprofits. Nonprofits controlled by their family members, which comes down to letting them keep their inheritances tax-free. This even happens in Europe.
Yup it’s mostly bullshit. Someone, somewhere might benefit, but certainly not any of the people within two thousands miles of where the rich guy lived. Which is still better than nothing, but Bill Gates could end homelessness in America immediately if he chose to do so. (I’m not saying it would be easy or fast, just that he has the money to make it happen.) He could make ALL COLLEGE FREE for students. Musk could have too, likely for less than he spent on Twitter.
what he was doing overseas was virtue signalling, to disguies his charities, so nobody would go looking into it, that is actually laundering money.
him lobbying the covid vaccine to be instantly pantent by the US was sketchy asf. its to ensure countries like african and asian ones, south america cant make deratives of the vaccine.
If old rich fucks had giving in their hearts, they would want to see some good shit done with the fruits of their “labor” (lol) while they are alive.
thats how he does it.
Yep. Look at Patagonia.
hes just trying to “clean up his image” of being a ruthless businessman in the 80s and 90s, he still is, even his foundation is questionable, remember the vaccines, he lobbied it so the poorer countries are forced to buy the usa/western versions, and cant make similar ones. warren isnt a saint either, but i dint hear much negative things about yet.
He said that he was giving away 99%+ 30 years ago, it’s just publicity stunts, or as Kyrgizon explains below they “give” things to nonprofits that they control. Why? They no longer pay taxes. So nice!
Bill gates is another billionaire mentally ill evil crap person, no different than elon or zuckenberg etc.
hes a billionaire, with a veneer of “philantrophy”, which means hes not genuine. there were plenty of ytbers that are like this had a veneer of progressivism, while turning hard right in the end.
Exactly.
They all have PR firms, we know that because elon bought in on his own PR and booted his in 2018 (IIRC).
Lure them in, pull the rug, harvest profits.
Yet again, I laugh, and remark ‘People still use Windows? People still use MSFT products?’
Sadly. An example: I work at a small school that does not have an IT department. Staff and teachers are nearly IT-illiterate, and the students can hardly be coaxed to do stuff on a laptop instead of their phones. So installing Linux would add an additional hurdle for both. Probably much smaller than they think, but still: it heightens the threshold to even consider switching to Linux.
There’s a few people who know that Linux is just as valid as Windows, but who would they trust to make the switch safely. Me? I’m not a professional. So they’d have to pay someone, properly. And then it all comes down to money again which usually comes down to “let’s not change anything”.
So for now I’d just be happy if they used LibreOffice instead of MS365.
The same goes for Google Workspace. Making the effort to roll your own (totally possible with FOSS) would require to pay at least 1 person, and some sort of transitional period. It’s cheaper and easier to pay none and just blame it on Google when things don’t work as desired. These people just don’t see it as a priority. Don’t understand the dangers.
Yep.
MSFT will continue to enshittify, people who point out this will happen will be poo-poo’d because switching would be complicated and costly…
… But, having to panic switch sometime down the road, because an entire class of software features or pricing models drastically alter with little warning…
… Well then, in the long run, it would have been less costly to start the migration strategy earlier.
I have seen this play out at every single company or non profit I have ever worked at, and I have learned to leave about 6 months after a planned migration/mitigation strategy gets canned as too costly and unnecessary… because usually, 6 months or so after that, every one is now in panic mode, and my workload would triple.
Including literally at MSFT itself.
The managers and corporate don’t know anything other than maximize short term profits, and have astounding levels of normalcy bias; even if you can present a well resesrched, realistic scenario with detailed costs over time for different strategies… they basically always assume things will just be fine, untill its far too late.
teachers dint go to school for tech, i would give them a pass.
Was gonna say this is exactly why Chromebooks and Google docs is popular.
Actually I think this isn’t exactly news. The university I go to, which is technically a foundation, had MS365 pulled last year IIRC and sent us all scrambling to find alternatives.
It didn’t bother me too much because I had already fully transitioned to LibreOffice, but my classmates were furious because they didn’t want to lose the “seamless online editing experience”. I told them to either use LibreOffice or move to Google Docs, but they didn’t like the idea and most (if not all) of them purchased MS365 subs. I unfortunately had to budge and get one too, because we needed to get some work done ASAP. I can’t wait until I graduate (should be soon-ish?) to stop paying for that crap.
But yeah. IIRC they started by reducing the amount of storage the university got, meaning they had to quickly delete data from past classes (fortunately I managed to back up quite a bit), and then one day they suddenly sent everyone an email saying “you don’t have access to MS365 anymore lol get fucked”
we used google docs alot during my final years in college, why aare they so resistant, its free. libreoffice i havnt touched yet.
Depending on what you’re using it for, the gsuite office alternatives are incredibly feature-sparse. Last I checked, a lot of essential features such as accessibility checking and scripting either have nightmarish implementation, or require third-party addons. It also requires an internet connection and can’t save in-progress documents to your local storage.
Honestly the only leg up over the others that I think the GSuite really has is the seamless collaboration features.
scream in John Malkovich’s voice:
“FUCK MICROSOFT”
On the flip side, please keep digging yourself in a hole, Microsoft. More incentive to join Linux for us users.
Team america screams join you
Micropenis still thinking they can use their “monopoly” to their advantage is cute. Js giving Linux and other competitors a higher marketshare for free
But can you also get all the enterprise features they have with Linux? Like, backups, mobile device management, identity and access management, MFA? All integrated tightly and easily deployable from a portal?
MS13?
