French President Emmanuel Macron has urged Europe to assert itself on the world stage, saying it is time to start acting like a “power”.

In the face of growing threats from China, Russia and now the US, he told a group of European newspapers that the continent faced a “wake-up call”.

"Are we ready to become a power? This is the question in the field of economy and finance, in defence and security, and in our democratic systems.

“In another era we might have said it is the moment to ‘assume our majority’,” he said ahead of an EU summit in Brussels later this week.

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    That means cutting ties with Israel and the Zionist oligarchs trying to implement mass surveillance. They don’t seem to understand that basic reality though because they keep trying to force the digital ID through Zionist Larry Ellisons company Oracle onto their populace.

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        They’re the most successful Fascists at the moment and in parts of Europe have massive influence because they’re often supported by those amongst the power-hungry rich people who happen to be Jewish. This helps further normalized the tools of Autoritarianism in the countries were they have influence.

        (For avoidance of doubt I’m not saying "Rich = Jewish, I’m saying “Very Rich Jewish = Very Rich Non-Jewish = Fascist Supporting”)

        Mind you, I myself think Neoliberals are far more guilty of pushing for the implementation of tools of Authoritarianism in Europe than Zionists, mainly because Neoliberalism is an anti-Democracy ideology (it desires that the State - which is what is controlled by the voters - does not exerce its power in those domains that matter the most for Money - the neolibs call it “interfere in the Market” - i.e. for that which the vote controls to be a power second to Money, or in other words, make the power of voters secondary, the opposite of Democracy).

        Whilst Propaganda is the primary Neoliberal tool of control, Surveilance is the second one and Force Disguised As Fair and Legitimate (i.e. as “Justice”) is next, which is how we end up with Chat-Control, insanelly overbroad Anti-Terrorism Legislation and Anti-Demonstration Legislation.

        But yeah, there is reason to believe that the influence of Zionism in Europe mainly via the subset of the Jewish People here who are pro-Fascism, has probably helped a bit the expansion of authoritarianism in Europe.

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    This is like telling Lemmy US leftists that they need to start reinforcing their communities and getting social and start grassroots movements to get better representation in their states.

    It’s a great message, but the mob is too varied and complacent to actually treat the situation as dire as it really is.

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    World powers don’t let shadow fleets sabotage their infrastructure without receiving a declaration of war in return.

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    This very hard. Europe down in recent years. Usa is dont care Europe. Rising far right population. Well very diffucult job.

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    Indeed we should. So long as this doesn’t mean that we move towards being isolationists, imperialists or Nazi’s.

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    Translation: “We should increase spending on military equipment so that later we can become fascist and hand it all off to an authoritarian regime to use. We should do this instead of fixing any actual problems, because addressing the root cause of those problems would mean acknowledging that those problems are caused by the ruling class, who own and control ‘democracy’.”

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    I’d for the longest time wondered why Europe has been so complacent in letting the US dominate the geopolitical agenda. Could it be by letting the US overspend on military, EU can instead invest in better living standards for themselves & mooch off US military support through NATO if the need ever arises?

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      I honestly think it’s laziness.

      Europeans still appreciate just living life with their families.

      Americans are out for world domination in the name of their oligarchs.

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        I honestly think it’s laziness. Europeans still appreciate just living life with their families.

        Yeah, so, here’s the thing. Wanting to live life with your family is not lazy. Not having a desire for world domination is not lazy. Those are just normal things that regular people do.

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    I know how much the French hate Macron (with good reasons), but you can’t really argue against these points. Some things gotta happen. Federilization, another voting system etc. Otherwise EU will be undermined and destroyed by the superpowers and become a lot of small versailstates. We cant find in this world, when bound on hands and feet by a few orbans here and there…

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      Because they like imperialism. All the imperialistic superpowers are a threat to humanity.

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      Because it’s an authoritarian state, and history teachers us how those end up behaving, sooner or later.

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      Not all threats are military. China is the economic threat but it also has military might.

      EDIT: From the article.

      "Are we ready to become a power? This is the question in the field of economy and finance, in defence and security, and in our democratic systems.

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      China may not be perceived as a military threat, but it is credibly an economic threat. China is returning to a state where Europe has difficulty conducting trade with China as China will only accept natural resources for trade. That can be dangerous for an economy with a large safety net and declining productivity.

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      They are a threat to Europe’s manufacturing/industrial sectors. In the US, China carries out propaganda/destabilization campaigns; not sure if they do much of that in Europe… Looks like China is involved with AfD (several AfD members have been arrested for espionage), so they are probably trying to destabilize Europe too.

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    He’s right.

    They need to focus on making every European nation a nuclear power. You can’t trust the US when we’re on our second consecutive brain-damaged president in a row.

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      Yeah, what a fantastic idea: let’s give the Orban’s and the Meloni’s of Europe (stable geniuses one and all) things that go boom and make a nice mushroom cloud.

      Fantastic.

      We already have two nuclear powers in Europe.

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      They need to focus on making every European nation a nuclear power.

      The power of nuclear weapons comes from being used in a retaliation strike. For that a submarine is needed. Soon space weapons are needed to disable the counter-measures.

      Just 10 bombs and 10 bombers is not enough.

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    Problem is - if you look at how “World Powers” behave, do you really wanna live in such countries?

    Which Europeans would just love to invade neighbors like Russia and USA?

    Which Europeans would love to deregulate their countries in order to enrich elites like USA?

    Or perhaps which Europeans would love to live under state surveillance while their country buys out foreign infrastructure like China?

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      How do you determine he’d make a great president? What great things has he achieved as president of France?

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          Is he perceived well? In my region he is perceived as a bla-bla-bla man(including bla-bla-bla with Putin when nobody asked for it).

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          Can’t really please French people if they want a president that lowers the retirement age to 45 and doubles everyones vacation days each year.

          Obvious /s in case that’s not apparent. Unironically, this is how french politics is often portrayed in Swiss media though.

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        He’s proven effective at overseeing a stalemate, so he’d be within his element at the EU.

        He’s also a good diplomat.

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    I really like Macron in his foreign policy mode, it just a shame he pissed the bed by opening a loophole that will be abused if ever an amoral president gets in power.

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    As long as it’s not France’s idea of being a power… I have no interest in colonialism.