• Thurstylark@lemm.ee
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      2 months ago

      Providing something that is broken is very different from not providing it at all.

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        2 months ago

        Right but…they did provide it. And now they’re not. You wouldn’t call removing that encryption “breaking”?

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            2 months ago

            What does your behavior have to do with whether or not the encryption is broken?

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              Social media doesn’t do nuance.

              No encryption was broken.

              Broken would imply that Apple has the ability to decrypt stored user data using advanced data protection. This is not the case.

              Selling you a box to put your stuff in and selling someone else a locked box to put their stuff in doesn’t mean Apple broke into your box. It means your big brother won’t let you have locks.

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                Broken would imply that Apple has the ability to decrypt stored user data using advanced data protection.

                …is that not what they’re doing?

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                  2 months ago

                  No.

                  They disabled the ability for new users to use ADP.

                  If you use ADP, only you have the encryption keys. The UK wants Apple to keep a copy of the decryption keys.

                  There is nothing that can be done to data that is already protected by ADP. At worst Apple can delete it, or turn over encrypted data but there is nothing that is likely to exist in the next 100 years that can break the encryption (even hypothetical quantum computers).

                  As an interesting side note, if you use Windows and use Bitlocker to encrypt your hard drives while logged into a Microsoft account then Microsoft backs up your recovery key “for your convenience”. They’ve produced these recovery keys for subpoenas.

                  That is what the UK wants Apple to do.

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                    They disabled the ability for new users to use ADP.

                    So existing users can continue using ADP?

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          No.
          Users that do not decrypt their storage lose their storage permanently.
          Users that decrypt their storage get to continue to use it, but it isn’t not encrypted.

          No encryption is broken.
          Users are swapping convenience for privacy. (Or privacy for convenience? Whichever way that is).

          Broken implies it is unusable or useless. As in “Apples encryption is unusable”.
          This is not the case. It’s not broken. Users are given the option to remove the encryption to be able to continue to use the storage.

          Essentially: https://xkcd.com/538/

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          Not as it is conventionally used.

          If you break a lock, that’s different from unlocking it and removing it.