original, saw this somewhere else too. ddos stuff. this one blames ru for archive.today mess. sounds about right. didn’ intend it to look like an announcement here. it kind of did. post based on ars story, apparently. who knows

  • Schmuppes@lemmy.today
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    4 months ago

    So what you’re saying is if we refuse to pay for journalism long enough, the journalists will eventually give up and just work for free? Not have to travel for their investigations, eat nothing and need no private home?

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      4 months ago

      Democracy isn’t possible without an independent press.

      Epstein was persecuted because the frigging Miami Herold reported about his abuses in 2018. He would have continued raping and trafficking kids for who knows how long without that. In a world where the media is owned by Epstein, that won’t happen.

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        4 months ago

        what democracy? every person in the leadership of america and most of the world were either friends with epstein or on his payroll.

    • Venia Silente@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      4 months ago

      I haven’t said that journalists have to work for free. Just that we don’t have to be the ones who are trickled out to feed them. I doesn’t have to be “poors vs workers” unlike what the media is telling you, ya know? A better system is possible.

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        4 months ago

        Huh, I don’t get that argument. To me, it seems that citizens paying journalists is desirable. I’m genuinely curious, who else should pay them in your view?

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      4 months ago

      They’re already mostly owned and working for the ultra-rich interests. There have been plenty of outlets over the years that had paying users, they’re mostly owned at this point. Those that aren’t are getting quite click-baity.

      Capitalism is hard on News. Facism is worse.