Discord cut ties with its age-verification partner after exposed code fueled federal-reporting concerns, months after a breach hit 70,000 users.
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Peter Theil doesn’t seem driven by religion to me… He sees religion as a tool, like all powerful people.
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FYI, this dude is a literal nazi.
wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow
What does that have to do with his religious beliefs?
something something this user thinks israel is the same as judaism and therefore israel is the defacto jewish state and dealing with israel means you are a jew by relation? i’ll just assume that’s how this antisemite thinks
Folks that think that way are usually religious themselves and think religion is some kind of spell that makes people good or bad, They probably attribute the good things they do to their religion and the bad things they do to straying for their religion. Sad, simple shit. The exact sort of person Thiel uses.
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Fuck, you’re stupid. Keep going, it’s entertaining, you idiots are creating a new form of comedy and I’m starting to appreciate it.
Tell us more about how persecuting jewish people specifically isn’t anti-Semitic. I love to see how you guys reason through things, it’s fascinating.
You know that you can hate Israel as a governmental entity without being a bigoted dick, right?
what’s more is this line of thinking does work for israel, not against it. israel wants the world to think that they, and they alone, speak for people who look like me
I’ll say it again, FUCK ISRAEL.
FUCK ISRAEL
a little louder for the people in the back
You know that you can hate Israel as a governmental entity without being a bigoted dick, right?
Not according to Israel unfortunately
Fuck Israel.
At this point it’s not a conspiracy to think Israel spreads the ‘jews control everything’ narrative so they can poison any discussion on the topic
no. you’ve just crossed the line past anti-zionism to being uninformed on who pulls the strings in geopolitics and equating zionism to judaism. broadly speaking, lemmy is mostly anti-zionist with the exception of a couple instances (this one in particular i have some issues with which i won’t get into here)
America has been a surveillance state since 2002. also America controls Israel, not the other way around
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i have yes. this is all evidence of the transnational oligarchy that fundamentally operates to support white supremacy abroad
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Who’s controlling it all, though? Tell us, please.
yeah that’s what transnational means
Oops, you caught us, we’re sorry! We promise not to do it again! (In the next 3-6 months, restrictions apply, refer to your EULA for details)
Discord, the idiots who were bout to face id us?
[Insert South Park “We’re Sorry” scene here]
Also, given the state of affairs and the lack of trust, I dont believe they are cutting them off. Assume the worst and do what you can to decouple from the platform I dont expect people to quit cold-turkey, but put in the effort, it takes a long time to degoogle yourself and given how ubiquitous discord was during the plague, I dont fault people for making sure lines of communication and contacts arnt broken.
I tried hosting my own TS server recently and it’s easy as shit. Not as many features sure, but it’s so snappy and it just works. Ideally I’d move to mumble and host it on some old laptop but as a backup thing I can’t complain
Teamspeak requires you to pay for a license to host a community of greater than 32 people though. I have much more faith in Fluxer, which just came out recently and has its servers getting hammered right now. It will have true self-hosting and federation. Also it looks exactly like Discord which probably makes moving to it easier.
https://matrix.org/ has been around for years and has had true self-hosting and federation from the start.
Matrix is lacking all sorts of features and proper UX. I used it through multiple front-ends and every time it’s just not good enough yet.
https://github.com/fluxerapp/fluxer
Neat
Maybe I can spin something up for family to use instead of SMS.
Check out the snikket server/app, it’s a complete setup that uses an XMPP server and clients with a focus on families and close friends
Ive already got xmpp, its more a client thing for them I think.
The discord-esque look I think works. Though if you’ve got a client rec for xmpp with a similar feel, for that I’m all ears.
Ive hosted my own TS3 server for well over a decade and matrix was spooled up this past year. They both are good products and server their roles, but they dont line up 100% with Discord and its user reach.
I am hopefull TS6 gets the funding it needs to get out of beta and I wish the Fluxer dev the best (they are going to need it).
What this whole discord debacle needs to teach people is how to be independent regarding your communications, data and their storage.
We should pretty much assume that all age verification efforts either currently are feeding into surveillance efforts, or will be bought out by surveillance companies.
Exactly. Even if a smaller company is running ID verification now there’s a very good chance they’ll be bought up by a monster later and take all that data with them.
Discord: Sorry, we spied and report on you through software from a bad company. Be assured, we will spy and report on you through good company software from now on!
Discord is fucked. You love to see it.
did it really though?
did it really?
for some reason I’ve got the “oh you aren’t???” mashed up with that anakin with the ridiculous breasts meme
Too late. Fuck Discord. I’ll just text my frie… oh wait…maybe we should start investing in messenger birds again?
Join matrix I’ve found it does everything I wanted from discord without its added bloat and memory useage
Well, I don’t believe you.
Also, you should learn what trust is and how that works.
Trust isn’t on then now. They won’t learn what it means until the customer demonstrates what trust means. The trust is gone on our side so leave the platform. Rip the bandaid off. Get off social media. Get off shitty streaming services.
Do it and do it now.
Got it, cancelling my Netflix now, that will show er… discord? Somehow.
I get what you’re saying, but I also don’t pay for discord, so it’s not like they’ll care if I disappear.
I think you’re missing the point. The idea isn’t that leaving Netflix would affect discord; but rather that we should tie an exodus from discord to the rest of the de-cloud movement.
In other words, quitting discord won’t solve the root cause of why discord went to shit. The root cause are cartel-like cloud companies that are trying to gain leverage over society as large. The only way to reasonably solve it is to stop participating.
Discord gets paid for user’s data and they just lost a ton of users. That’s why they are “cutting ties” with Persona.
I suspect its more of a temporary reaction and they will reframe this age-verification and the related data collection and try again later.
This. People seem to think that if they don’t pay for a service or click on ads on social sites, then they aren’t contributing to the company’s revenue. They fail to realize that THEY themselves are the product being sold. The sites/services and the interactions people have on them are merely a byproduct of the business model which is selling people’s data. The only way to win is to not play.
You clearly don’t get what I’m saying.
I believe it actually does matter. Every person using Discord brings their friends onto the platform. Users leaving will probably also lead to others in their bubble leaving/following to an alternative.
So lots of people leaving has a bigger effect than just that set of users being absent. Even if you didn’t pay for Nitro, some of your friends might have and may stop now.
You’re preaching to the choir here.
Why create ties in the first place?
Not sure if I should upvote people fixing a obvious, terrible problem that they created themselves.
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Too fucking late time to migrate.
Anything Thiel touches is compromised. All he does is steal your data so he can use it too brainwash you…
CEO from mossad family. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humam_Sakhnini
Smoke in mirrors. I’m calling bullshit. Thiel will probably get all the info and blackmail everyone later.
He already got it. That’s the only reason a company “backpedals”. Saying this shit is only to save face so no one leaves. You know, because we’re all stupid and believe everything rich people teal us.
Smoke and mirrors mate. Hard agree though, it all goes into storage to weaponise later.
Bad thing is we’re not immune in Lemmy. Sometimes I wonder if my 900 security counter measures ever leak. I tried to go to a site to test it one time, but my features were so tight that I couldn’t even load the test page. At least it’s worth less to them than data off Facebook with some anonymity.
