Red meat has a huge carbon footprint because cattle requires a large amount of land and water.
https://sph.tulane.edu/climate-and-food-environmental-impact-beef-consumption
Demand for steaks and burgers is the primary driver of Deforestation:
https://e360.yale.edu/features/marcel-gomes-interview
If you don’t have a car and rarely eat red meat, you are doing GREAT 🙌🙌 🙌
Sure, you can drink tap water instead of plastic water. You can switch to Tea. You can travel by train. You can use Linux instead of Windows AI’s crap. Those are great ideas. But, don’t drive yourself crazy. If you are only an ordinary citizen, remember that perfect is the enemy of good.
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Let me tell you something, the consumer is to blame.
Nobody needs to orient their life around anything that they don’t choose. For example I willingly gave up my car and picked a job near me so I didn’t have to drive.
There wouldn’t be a market for bottled water if people wouldn’t drink the fucking shit.
This whole cognitive dissonance crap where you get to live a completely hedonistic trash-filled lifestyle, while justifying that you have the right because you’re sad about your earning… I am sick to death of this attitude in people.
Oh and the shitty product that exists? I must consume it, it’s not me for purchasing it and creating a market, it’s them for serving my need & this market.
There wouldn’t be a market for bottled water if water was clean and readily available for free.
The bottled water industry is way worse in Norway than in Spain for example.
Even if you justification added up, you could just go get barrels of water, you don’t need to get individual bottles.
You people actually make me sick with your BS
Most scandinavians don’t buy individual bottles because of the drinking water quality. water is usually available most places. And it’s always free in regular cafes and restaurants in Norway if you ask for it.
It’s solvable if the state does what’s it’s supposed to.
Get out of here with your logic and reason!
It’s pretty lame to use the (imperically correct concept) of, no ethical consumption under capitalism to blanket absolve you of willful, informed choices. Humans all eat approx the same amount of calories, but the production of said calories are far from equal. Like you can be mad at the statistics but that doesn’t really change the reality of an unnecessary cultural pratice which massively contributes to climate.
I mean just for your own sake, stop this line of thinking at “I don’t care” instead of looking for a scapegoat to justify you indifference as praxis.
LOL
Tell me what is your job?
Don’t they sell crap?
Do you live in a hut?
Clean your ass with grass?
Piss off with your selfrightious BS.
How about you go fuck yourself?
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This is such a colossal cop out. Without question corporations and individual billionaires produce more pollution by several magintuedes of individual people. But even that is a drop in the bucket between the deforestation, the years of transporting food for livestock and the final transportation of end product meat to the world population that can be fed on plant based protein.
Save this line for plastic straws and other frivolous demonization from those in private jets. But don’t use it as a thought terminating cliche aginst the single biggest source of historical human made climate change.
Oh please.
Every food needs to be transported.
Well not if it’s produced and consumed locally but you forget you’re in capitalism where it’s cheaper to get your quinoa from 4000km away, etc.
Also I don’t want to be fed on plant based protein.
The world population can be fed anyway but capitalism says we need to destroy a lot of food to keep the prices down.
And some regions don’t have food bcs it can’t get there or their crops are destroyed by war, again caused by capitalism.
There’s a reason you don’t hear about little Greta anymore, she got wise.
Everyone can parrot the BP carbon footprint garbage all they want, IDC. I have zero guilt
At the core of literally every anti-vegan argument is, "but I don’t wanna!"
yep imagine not doing what you want
Do beliefs and principles even matter if, whenever they’re inconvenient, you ignore them and do whatever you were going to do anyway?
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This conversation is about whether eating meat is unethical, if you’re saying “I don’t wanna” then what you’re saying is that it doesn’t matter whether it’s ethical or not, because even if it were shown to be unethical and against your principles, you wouldn’t care, because “I don’t wanna.” Because your treats are more important to you than beliefs or principles.
I might be able get behind this argument when you talk about the rules on plastic straws. But red meat is terrible for the environment. As is driving cars. Especially ICE and especially when it’s just one person, i.e. most work commutes. Another thing is heating/ cooling homes btw.
I personally think there are a lot of small things we should do as individuals but I understand not everyone might want to do them. I also agree that it’s up to governments to do a lot of heavy lifting. That can be things like establishing district heating or improving public transport. But maybe it can also be adding higher taxes on red meat.
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The income from a tax is generally not tied to a specific cause in most countries. If all it does is reducing meat consumption that would be a net benefit for the climate. And in this case also be beneficial for the economy as res meat isn’t healthy and contributes to a lot of disease among the population.
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Calm down. It’s pretty well-known in economic circles that increasing taxes on a good will reduce consumption of said good, unless it’s absolutely lime maybe baby formula. Even then some poor people are likely to be priced out of the market or at least forced to reduce consumption.
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Corporations are not ‘worse’.
They are the bulk of the problem.
They will do absolutely nothing about that since they can’t be touched for the holy profits of consumerism and the fanatic fixation on continuous growth of capitalism.
I refuse out of principle and I feel zero guilt. Those fingerpointers can fuck off.
They tax us suckers anyway for all the bad bad things we do to live.
And that money they can give to corporations or buy more carbon credits to polute more.
You can feel better and it may be good for your conscience but it’s like you’re un a bus driving down a cliff and your contribution is putting your foot on the road to slow it down.
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F150 right. Ridiculous exaggerations.
Let’s see how you do buying nothing from corporations.
Really you need a job at BP or some chemical multinational.
You’re already doing their work.