I use Duck.AI a lot, and it says its privacy oriented and doesnt save your queries. Is Firefox doing anything similar, or is it all monetized data?
They can’t help themselves.
The speed at which firefox has been enshittified is as impressive as it is sad.
…and we’ll all suffer as climate change increases. Seriously, none of this shit is worth frying for.
Dont worry the US and Israel are starting WW3 as we speak we will all be dead before then any way
Donald Trump is the most environmentalist president ever. With oil prices as they are, can you imagine how much less oil we’re burning?
lol no. We still burn the same amount only now the robber baron oil execs get paid triple.
Setting fire to the oil fields, cutting out the middle men. That’s American efficiency.
Nah, it’s just imperialist billiards, big vs little.
It’s all part of “the great game” the west has been playing against Russia in the middle east for over a century… The middle east is where America does it’s proxy wars.
World wars are only a risk if a white European country is attacked. Horrendous isn’t it.
So like Ukraine?
Awfully presumptuous of you to think Ukraine counts as white.
thier revenue entirely dependent on google, you can see why, they got lazy and dint spend time developing thier browser.
There’s a master “kill switch” for all AI features in Firefox now. I suggest everyone who’s concerned about this kind of thing just go and turn it off, and then we need never bother each other over this again.
My master AI killswitch was just to switch to Waterfox.
It’s still opt out, not opt in because on first install that LLM garbage is enabled by default. The kill switch should’ve been for people that chose to try LLM garbage and found it lacking; needing an easy way to disable it all.
I won’t stop complaining until Firefox makes their LLM nonsense opt-in, letting a user choose at first boot if they want that shit or not. That would be the most ethical and user respecting way to handle their LLM shit.
LLM bullshit should have been an extension
Exactly, it should never be bundled into software without explicit user consent.
Ehh, it’s all local models. I don’t really see the harm in that. It’s just new features like any other.
It’s still a problem because users are opted in, as I’ve mentioned in many replies…If users don’t push back, we get situations like Microsoft and their insane LLM shit being shoved in all their software/services/OS. It’s the same “normalize and numb” tactics used by corporations to make end users more compliant to their forced integration of features in software, that aren’t the best or helpful to that end user. It’s not okay, nor is this an ordinary new feature. LLMs are being used to do a lot of disgusting things in the world by the ultra-wealthy and techbros wanting to control/influence the masses.
“When it comes to privacy, defaults matter.”
- Mozilla
Why not remove the AI and offer them as a separate extension? That way you’re happy, and everybody else doesn’t have crap shoved down their throats.
Or pick a Firefox fork that doesn’t have the AI bullshit. Libre Wolf is great for people who take security very seriously,l. I hear Water Fox is a much closer equivalent to Firefox without AI, and also has a focus on privacy. I’ve also been using Iron Fox on my android with basically no issues.
With Mozilla’s current track record I don’t trust them to not fuck with the AI “killswitch”.
The only thing stopping me from switching is the unreliability of updates to uBlock on forked versions of Firefox.
I’ve been using Waterfox for months and not had a single issue with ublock origin or any other extension.
Good to know! The last time I looked into it was early last year, good to know it works good for you.
Till those options are turned off by the browser updating like has already happened with some people.
10 delete AI
20 goto line 10
run
No thanks.
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bUt ThErE’s A kiLL SwItCh!
Yrah, Its called uninstalling Firefox
And instead install a chromium based browser, right?
Just let them shoot themselves in the foot. Get familiar with the forks. Someone at Mozilla has no idea what they’re doing. You would think they would learn their lesson last AI garbage but I guess not.
Guess I need to self host sync now as I don’t trust Mozilla with any of my data at this point.
Most pointed questions you type will start a Google search1. This loads a regular search results page, and sees Firefox’s AI chatbot shift to a sidebar on the right. The AI reads the top results (including any AI overview), and produces a response based on them.
AI reads AI reading AI reading AI reading AI reading…
Exactly what I thought when I got to that bit of the article.
What could go wrong.
You should see how AI is being deployed in warfare. Plausible deniability is about to go through the roof.
Back in the day, you get out jail free card was on a scale of “the devil made me do it” to “I was following orders”, now we get “It was AI”
You should see how AI is being deployed in warfare. Plausible deniability is about to go through the roof.
https://www.newsweek.com/ai-chooses-nuclear-option-in-95-of-war-simulations-11589197
Glad I turned that shit off right away.
So I feel violated and gross and I never wanna use Firefox again. I don’t care if you can self host it. I don’t care if it’s private. Mozilla propagandists need to fucking understand that their privacy policy does not reassure me. Nor does the fact that they went back on the AI kill switch and sent my information that should’ve been private to someone else’s computer a good thing. It is fucking bad and I hope Mozilla fucking implodes. In the rise of fascist governments and the need for privacy. This is unacceptable and I refuse to even use a third party fork of Firefox. The best feature arguably that made Firefox worth while that being syncing has been basically weaponized potentially into something evil that will be used against people. Especially as they have long since updated their policies to make sure law enforcement can gain access to your personal information anyway.
Nor does the fact that they went back on the AI kill switch and sent my information that should’ve been private to someone else’s computer a good thing.
when did they do that?
Waterfox. Librewolf. Zen. Floorp.
They’re all good options in their own ways. Just pick one and go
Floorp (which I use) does not distinguish itself from Firefox with regards to AI features, so if those features existing is a problem for you it’s not an option either.
Have you seen the better browsing experience? It’s on Zen. It’s literally on Librewolf. It’s on Floorp without ads. It’s literally on Waterfox. You can probably find it on Ironfox. Dude it’s on Ladybird. It’s a Servo original. It’s on GNOME Web. You can browse on GNOME Web. You can go to GNOME Web and browse it. Epiphany has it for you. </joke>
What’s the original of this copypasta?
Edit: nvm, found it!
