Why are we not calling the CEOs and other MBA/c-suite goblins directly?
Lol I’m on the visa line with Visa now, they have a prepared statement about this.
They are trying to say they only ever block purchases unless it’s illegal.
They explicitly said they DO NOT moderate purchases unless it is illegal multiple times. I kept challenging her and saying it’s not illegal, yet they moderate, but she told me she can only read the prepared statement and repeated it multiple times. She then told me I would have to email them to “share my perspective” and then hung up on me.
I love how facts are just rendered to perspectives now.
It’s a common tactic of fascists. If you point blank refuse to accept reality and just keep repeating the same lie over and over maybe people will believe it. Of course it doesn’t really work. The people that were going to believe you already believe you, and the people who don’t believe you, will never believe you. Sadly despite the fact that it doesn’t work, they keep doing it.
But it does work.
If they keep you busy arguing about what’s real they never have to discuss actions or resolutions.
Corporations lie blatantly all the fucking time.
Its just that they lie in ways that usually are not able to be legally defined as some kind of a legally actionable version of a lie.
They are usually more worried with ever having outwardly admitting something that they could be sued over, than they are with any kind of human to human sense of accountability or believability.
Every, single, thing they are mass releasing or designing as an official stance has gone through some kind of legal team, or a team under a legal team that follow’s guidelines from a legal team.
This is just how megacorps work.
They are not people, they are a sociopathic machine, operated by people who very much tend to be sociopaths.
That is true, these are perspectives. Nobody knows the truth, only a projection if it upon their world.
It’s just that by that they are claiming that it’s their perspective which decides what will happen.
In other words, they are saying “so whatcha gonna do”.
Good thing what they say doesn’t matter, since goal is to tie up the lines.
I support this but I find it fascinating the steam this can build and quick activism with guides and yet I never see any of this stuff when it comes to political policies
Threats to the bottom line is the thing that motivates companies faster than anything else.
If anyone has the GPUs to self-host LLMs to spam the shit out of them, it’s gamers. Gotta get on an easy-to-self-host project to distribute to the community 😄
you can probably use the tts tools from hume.ai
I think the limiting factor would be getting your number blocked. Maybe someone could get a bunch of VoIP numbers?
This is what spammers, scammers, identity thieves, ‘pig-butcherers’, credit collections do.
It absolutely works.
White hat social hacking. What a time to be alive.
Here’s a list of MasterCard’s toll-free phone numbers in various countries: https://www.mastercard.fi/content/dam/public/mastercardcom/na/global-site/documents/global-services-phone-numbers.pdf
And here’s the same for Visa: https://www.visa.fi/content/dam/VCOM/download/personal/security/gcas_general_numbers.pdf
And the content of that file, in case that they might remove that link:
Mastercard Global Service™
Local Toll-Free Telephone Numbers
- American Samoa 1-1-800-307-7309
- Japan 00531-11-3886
- Anguilla 1-800-307-7309
- Korea, Republic of 0079-811-887-0823
- Antigua and Barbuda 1-800-307-7309
- Liechtenstein 0800-89-7092
- Argentina 0800-555-0507
- Luxembourg 800-2-4533
- Australia 1800-120-113
- Malaysia 1-800-804594
- Austria 0800-07-06-138
- Mexico 001-800-307-7309
- Bahamas 1-800-307-7309
- Monaco 0-800-90-1387
- Bahrain 8000-0087
- Montserrat 1-800-307-7309
- Barbados 1-800-307-7309
- Netherlands 0800-022-5821
- Belgium 0800-1-5096
- New Zealand 800-441-671
- Bermuda 1-800-307-7309
- Norway 800-12697
- Bolivia 800-10-0172
- Panama 001-800-307-7309
- Bonaire 001-800-307-7309
- Peru 0800-77-476
- Brazil 0800-891-3294
- Philippines 1-800-1-111-0061
- Cambodia 800-881-001 then 877-288-3891*
- Poland 0-0800-111-1211
- Canada 1-800-307-7309
- Portugal 800-8-11-272
- Cayman Islands 1-800-307-7309
- Puerto Rico 1-800-307-7309
- Chile 1230-020-2012
- The Russia 8-800-555-02-69
- China 10-800-110-7309**
- Saba 1-800-307-7309
- China 2 10-800-711-7309***
- St. Eustatius 1-800-307-7309
- Colombia 01-800-912-1303
- St. Maarten 1-800-307-7309
- Costa Rica 0-800-011-0184
- St. Kitts-Nevis 1-800-307-7309
- Curacao 001-800-307-7309
- Saipan (N. Marianas) 1-800-307-7309
- Cyprus 080-90569
- San Marino 800-870-866
- Czech Republic 800-142-494
- Saudi Arabia 800-844-9457
- Denmark 8001-6098
- Singapore 800-1100-113
- Dominica 1-800-307-7309
- South Africa 0800-990418
- Dominican Republic 1-800-307-7309
- Spain 900-822-756
- Finland 08001-156234
- Sweden 020-791-324
- France 0-800-90-1387
- Switzerland 0800-897-092
- Germany 0800-071-3542
- Taiwan 00801-10-3400
- Greece 00-800-11-887-0303
- Thailand 001-800-11-887-0663
- Grenada 1-800-307-7309
- Trinidad and Tobago 1-800-307-7309
- Guam 1-800-307-7309
- Turkey 00-800-13-887-0903
- Guatemala 1-800-999-1480
- Turks and Caicos 01-800-307-7309
- Hong Kong 800-966677
- United Arab Emirates 800-0444-3895
- Hungary 06800-12517
- United Kingdom 0800-96-4767
- India 000-800-100-1087
- United States 1-800-307-7309
- Indonesia 001803-1-887-0623
- Vatican City State 800-870-866
- Ireland 1-800-55-7378
- Venezuela 0800-1-002902
- Israel 180-941-8873
- Vietnam 120-11576
- Italy 800-870-866
- Virgin Islands, 1-800-307-7309
- Jamaica 0800-307-7309
- Virgin Islands, U.S. 1-800-307-7309
Last Updated 31 January 2019
The contents of the file for Visa’s phone numbers:
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Anguilla 1-800-847-2911
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Antigua 1-800-847-2911
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Argentina 0800-666-0171
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Aruba 800-1518
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Australia 1-800-125-440
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Austria 0 800-200-288Δ800-892-8134
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Bahamas 1-800-847-2911
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Bahrain 800-006
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Barbados 1-800-847-2911
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Belgium 0800-1-8397
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Belize 811 or 555Δ800-847-2911
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Bermuda 1-800-847-2911
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Bolivia 800-10-0188
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Bonaire* 001-800-847-2911
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Brazil 0800-891-3680
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British Virgin Islands 1-800-847-2911
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Bulgaria 00-800-0010Δ888-557-4446
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Cambodia 1-800-881-001Δ888-710-7783
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Canada 1-800-847-2911
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Cayman Islands 1-800-847-2911
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Chile 1230-020-2136
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Mainland China (South) 10-800-110-2911
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Mainland China (North) 10-800-711-2911
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Colombia 01-800-912-5713
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Costa Rica 0-800-011-0030
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Croatia 0-800-220-111Δ866-654-0125
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Curacao* 001-800-847-2911
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Czech Republic 800-142-121
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Denmark 80-010277
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Dominica 1-800-847-2911
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Dominican Republic 1-800-847-2911
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Ecuador 1-999-119 or 1-800-225-528Δ800-847-2911
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Egypt (Cairo only) 2510-0200Δ866-654-0128
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Egypt (outside Cairo) 02-2510-0200Δ866-654-0128
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El Salvador 800-6921
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Estonia 800-12001Δ800-406-9982
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Finland 0800-11-0057
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France 0800-90-1179
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Germany 0800-000-6510
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Gibraltar 8800-877-3745966
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Greece 00-800-11-638-0304
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Grenada 1-800-847-2911
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Guam 1-800-847-2911
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Guatemala 1-800-999-0115
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Guyana 159Δ1-855-477-1390
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Honduras 800-0123Δ800-847-2911
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Hong Kong 800-96-7025
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Hungary 06-800-17682
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India 000-800-100-1219
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Indonesia 001-803-1-933-6294
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Ireland, Republic of 1-800-55-8002
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Israel 1-80-941-1605
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Italy 800-819-014
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Jamaica 0-800-847-2911
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Japan 00531-11-1555
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Jordan 1-880-0000Δ888-557-4442
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Kazakhstan 8 800-121-4321Δ888-557-4447
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Kenya 866-654-0162
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Latvia 8000-02288
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Lebanon 01-426-801Δ866-654-0130
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Liechtenstein 0800-89-4732
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Luxembourg 0800-2012
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Macedonia 0800-94288Δ888-557-4458
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Malaysia 1800-80-0159
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Mauritius 01-120Δ866-654-0165
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Mexico 001-800-847-2911
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Monaco 0800-90-1179
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Montserrat 1-800-847-2911
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Morocco 002-11-0011Δ866-654-0163
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Netherlands 0800-022-3110
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Nevis 1-800-847-2911
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New Zealand 0800-44-3019
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Norway 800-12052
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Panama 001-800-111-0016
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Paraguay 008-11-800Δ800-599-1137
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Perú 001-800-890-0623
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Philippines 1-800-1-111-9015
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Poland 0-0-800-111-1569
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Portugal 800-8-11-824
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Puerto Rico 1-800-847-2911
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Romania 0 808-03-4288Δ888-557-4416
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Saba* 1-800-847-2911
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Saint Eustatius* 1-800-847-2911
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Saint Kitts 1-800-847-2911
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Saint Lucia 800-238-5517
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Saint Maarten* 1-800-847-2911
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San Marino 800-819-014
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Saudi Arabia 1-800-10Δ866-654-0129
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Senegal 800-103-072Δ888-557-4451
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Singapore 800-110-0344
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Slovakia 0 800-000-101Δ800-406-9970
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South Africa 0800-990-475
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South Korea 00798-11-00-908-12
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Spain 900-99-1124
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Sweden 020 160 4293
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Switzerland 0800-89-4732
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Taiwan 00801-10-3008
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Thailand 001-800-11-535-0660
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Trinidad and Tobago 1-800-847-2911
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Turkey 00-800-13-535-0900
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Turks and Caicos 0-1-800-847-2911
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Ukraine 800-502-886Δ888-557-4445
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United Arab Emirates 8000-021Δ866-654-0112
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United Kingdom 0800-89-1725
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United States 1-800-847-2911
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Uruguay 00-0411-940-7915
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U.S. Virgin Islands 1-800-847-2911
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Venezuela 0800-1-002167
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Vietnam 1 201-0288Δ888-710-7781
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Updated 1/10/2023
Here’s a listing of all of the visa corporate critters
If you can get ahold of their contact info via LinkedIn or business listings, maybe try calling them directly for answers since their service desk can’t seem to give us any.
I just called visa and got the send an email spiel. I didn’t have time to do more time wasting, but it’s clear from the person I talked to they are getting lots of calls.
The person in the screenshots getting the supervisor and escalating is a top tier time waster, great work!
Great
Time to cancel some cards
There has to be an option where digital payment is concerned that allows an intermediate step that anonymizes transactions so one hand doesn’t know what the other is doing.
This bullshit really makes me not want to see digital currency at all now, of any kind.
I just learned about one, because of all this. A newer one. Gnu Taler
https://www.taler.net/en/index.html
Also, crypto, technically. Its got a lot of baggage though, and hoops and all that.
Wow. Imagine being able to buy a video game online with a credit card, without having to drive to the department store to buy it! You don’t even have to move from your seat! How draconian THAT would be!
Who has complained about that?
Couldn’t you just buy it on GOG or something? Steam sucks anyway why expend the effort
Talk about completely missing the point. Money processors have no business telling us what we can buy or where.
Pretty wild how they can literally gatekeep a digital entity.
Maybe they’ll demonetize Amazon next…
Hey now, why stop these people FROM CHANGING THE WORLD?! The stakes are too high gramps!
You are right, let’s all do absolutely nothing when corporations inch themselves into controlling every aspect of our lives.
They came for our porn!!!
Do you support incest and rape video games being globally banned from sale? I mean, I can kind of get it, its fucked up porn.
But I don’t like the idea of fictional smut, even if of particularly morally questionable type of porn, gets globally banned (as long as its just fictional obviously).
What people jork their peanits/flick their bean to as long as no one was actually harmed in its production is none of my or your business.
Obviously, there is also the chilling effect of letting this censorship slide and the anti-democratic nature of payment processors being the ones enforcing this. But I suspect those are unconvincing to you and you are happy this stuff is harder to get now. Am I wrong?
That’s their excuse but they are banning all adult games not just the incest and rape ones.
Fictional isn’t the same as not real.
Fiction is definitionally not true or is made up.
Cool, I didnt expect you to understand my point.
Nothing like a gaming platform that won’t let you refund your purchases after 2 hours of playtime.
I think you are confused about this it works. Steam absolutely does refunds after 2 hours of playtime, it’s just that if you have less than 2 hours it’s mostly automated and you don’t need a reason for the refund.
My bad.
Still, that gives them the discretion to turn you down.
Better than no refunds?
I’m looking for something a bit more reasonable. GOG lets you do it within 30 days regardless of playtime I think.
