• jenesaisquoi@feddit.org
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    6 days ago

    Incorrect use of whom. Who kills who (accusative case). Who gets killed by whom (dative case).

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      6 days ago

      It’s the objective case, i.e. everything that isn’t nominative, so this usage would be correct. We don’t have a real distinction between accusative and dative in modern english.

      That being said, I’m a descriptivist who is strongly of the opinion that ‘who’ is always correct and ‘whom’ is archaic.

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    8 days ago

    When a pedestrian collides into another pedestrian and kills them, that’s called “a fist fight.”

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      8 days ago

      Mmmh, I would suppose that to be counted in this statistic they’d need to run at each other really fast and somehow manage to kill each other (or at least one person). Like jousting or goats or something?

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      8 days ago

      Not really. Imagine 2 people walking at a brisk pace walking into each other, eg around a corner. Might kill someone. Usually that’s fine, but sometimes you have bad lick.

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    7 days ago

    A great case for why data normalization is so important.

    Looking at the chart like this with non-normalized data you might conclude that riding around on a scooter makes you near invincible compared to walking even if hit by a car.

    Whereas what’s really being shown is more people walk than ride scooters.

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      6 days ago

      Yeah, I’m really wondering how push scooters cause more pedestrian fatalities than bicycles. Motorized scooters, I understand, but how the hell does a push scooter have enough mass and speed to kill twice as many people?

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    8 days ago

    That pedestrian who killed a driver is a badass and ill buy them a bottle of their fav sparkling white; i don’t even care.

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      8 days ago

      Van/lorry kills more cars than they kill other vans/lorries. Top dog in the race to the bottom.

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    8 days ago

    Very curious about the three “question mark vs question mark” fatalities. UFO collision? Skateboard jousting?

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    I get that the implicated conclusion here is that cars are orders of magnitude more dangerous. This is true, but I wonder how much this data is being skewed because more people drive cars rather than walk.

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      8 days ago

      From the numbers its sort of implied that these are not per population but rather total numbers which is generally meaningless because some areas are metropolitan and others are long country roads.

      Its curious ish but not really a reasonable comparison. Who records people vs people collisions? And in how many people vs people collisions is a knife involved?

      Anyway absolute numbers are not particularly interesting, per population per area sounds more useful to give real context. However i will also take this opportunity to say “fuck cars” because over this side of the pond those shitty overcompensating shit trucks with their bull bars should be banned and removed from the road. Absolute death traps and don’t fit into our parking spots

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      8 days ago

      This is in France. Los of people walk rather than drive. It would be interesting to see the numbers adjusted for number of trips, though.

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          I disagree. For example, you might take your car for a trip to a big box store outside of town, but you might take your bike or walk to shop for groceries at your local supermarket. So even if you adjust for number of trips, the car will naturally account for a much larger distance.

          In my opinion it is much more interesting to know how likely you are to be injured or killed on any given trip than, say, every 100 km of walking or driving.

          Not to say that adjusting for distance can never be useful, but in this case I’m not sure it would add as much meaning.

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      8 days ago

      You would be surprised. I would take a bet against you that collectively more distance is completed on foot than in “cars” in france

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      8 days ago

      I had to double-read your comment there. There is not a single able-bodied person who is not a pedestrian. However, probably only 50% of them drives.

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    This is the sort of chart that should be put in front of children. It’s interesting to read and well designed. And it’s funny to imagine two people bumping into each other being fit for such a chart.

    And it has just enough complexity to be at least a bit fascinating to most kids, and especially spectrum kids.

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      7 days ago

      For the last row, it might be people using e.g. inline skates, skateboards or non-electrical scooters.
      For the last column, it could also be unknown vehicle (hit and run).

      Edit: Busses aren’t included in the chart as a separate category either, so they’re also in the “others” category.

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    8 days ago

    Need fewer 4+ wheeled death cages, more walking / biking infrastructure, more and better public transit, and more significant barriers between them.