• ceenote@lemmy.world
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    25 days ago

    Add it to the pile of really obviously stupid ideas that can be thwarted with 3 seconds of thought…

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      25 days ago

      The issue isn’t about thwarting the plan. The Wall already doesn’t work. Even conservative think tanks will admit to that much.

      The issue is coming back to The Wall as a cultural rallying point. Build it 10’ taller. Build two walls. Put turrets on the walls. Patrol with drones. Add more barbed wire. Unleash sharks with laser beams on their heads into the Rio Grande. Litter the border with radioactive waste.

      Anything to get people to turn their eyes south and say “Aaaah! Invasion! It must be stopped!” The Wall is just the latest panacea for a problem these people invented. They’re going to keep coming back and re-imagining it in between cooking up increasingly elaborate hoaxes about armies of brown people marching across it to Steal our Freedom.

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      25 days ago

      Or ladders, or rope, or digging, or the many other ways they have bypassed and overcome the new sections of wall already.

      The whole approach is so backwards. The drug war and neocolonialism have pushed many of USA’s problems to Mexico, so many Mexicans wish to move to the US to escape those issues. Best solution: legalize and regulate drugs, treat your addicts, help Mexico to put down the cartels, and work to build a tight friendly partnership with Mexico - a very significant trade and cultural partner with a huge shared border. Win for everyone, immigration plummets. Selected solutions: built an enormous wall, lambast their leaders, threaten invasion. Republicans are still in a 7th-century Chinese solution mindset, 1400 years later. Oh - and pour $30,000,000,000 into your secret police force to find and deport any suspected South American or Mexican-heritage people, primarily without trial, seemingly hurting just as many US citizens as new immigrants - shouldn’t forget that brilliant strategy.

      If the US could just stop shooting itself in the feet the wounds might heal.

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      24 days ago

      Right now there are more people leaving the US than entering, so I think it’s more to prevent people from escaping. You know, like North Korea.

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    25 days ago

    That clip of her standing in front of it, talking about how tall and deep it is, “almost impossible” to scale or dig under, then triumphantly proclaiming that they’re going to paint it black to make it harder to climb. Right after saying it’s almost impossible to climb.

    Oh, and it’s already black.

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    25 days ago

    When I was leaving Mexico after a few months down there in my RV I was diverted from my usual border crossing location (Sonoyta) to a much larger one (Yuma) ~40 min away. I had to wait in a 2 hour line to get to customs, and in that line I was inching forward next to the border wall. In this large city in plain view of everyone, mind you, I watched 4 seperate teams of mexican brothers get over the wall in under 5 min. The magic weapon? Rope 3 of the times, a jank looking ladder the last time. Billions of dollars defeated with a rope. The facepalm would send me into orbit rn.

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    That is specifically at the request of the president, who understands that in the hot temperatures down here when something is painted black it gets even warmer and it will make it even harder for people to climb. So we are going to be painting the entire southern border wall black to make sure that we encourage individuals to not come into our country illegally

    What happens when they have oven mits or you know, just gloves, or just wait until night when the metal is cooler and they have cover of night?

    Whatever, I guess I shouldn’t care about that $500+ million that goes to put on a single coat that peels off six months later because they didn’t prime the surface.

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    25 days ago

    Good thing DOGE saved us so much money that we can now easily afford to pay for completely logical projects such as this.

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    As someone who lives somewhere that just got up to 120° f hot metal is no joke. We had a ton of people hospitalized a few years back because they went to open gates to their homes and weren’t expecting scolding hot metal when it was already like 11pm.

    I’m not going to hate this because it’s a idea that doesn’t work, I’m going to hate it because it’s just another method to harm people who want to come to the land of the free. On top of it border states like to charge people for leaving out water so just anything they can possibly do to be vindictive and hateful I guess.

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      Because if there’s anything people have learned about Mexico, it’s that they don’t have any blankets. Or anything like rope or fabric covers that can easily just be tossed on it.

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      I’m going to hate it because it’s just another method to harm people who want to come to “the land of the free”

      What country do you mean? Canada? Mexico?

      As someone who lives somewhere that just got up to 120° f hot metal is no joke. We had a ton of people hospitalized a few years back because they went to open gates to their homes and weren’t expecting scolding hot metal when it was already like 11pm.

      Ever heard of night time?

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        24 days ago

        So you think that Canada is in the south? This is a discussion about the southern border wall.

        Yes I’ve heard of night just like I said in the quoted text people were getting severe burns and needing to be hospitalized because they were not expecting the gate to their house to be that hot at nearly midnight.

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          23 days ago

          Then what country of the free are you talking about? Have you seen the US? Nothing free about that country.

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            24 days ago

            Yes I’m sure you’ve never heard of the American national anthem that still calls the US the land of the free during all of this. I brought up hazardous heat conditions and tied that into this new policy to point out a criticism of America. I brought up the fact that the national anthem calls it the land of the free to point out hypocrisy.

            So far you haven’t done anything other than try and tell me that 11pm isn’t night for some reason and to criticize me for pointing out the words of the national anthem.

            So what exactly is your point here? What issue do you have with what I have been saying?

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    Right… Because black paint is going to stop them how exactly? “It absorbs the heat, so they will get burns when touching the fence”.

    Ever heard of night?

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      24 days ago

      We all know that border crossings happen in broad daylight on the least cloudy days. I mean, come on, people SLEEP at night!

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      Yes, but at the same time. A reduction of attempts during the day means you can have a concentration of manpower at night. And with the forcing day jumpers to wear gloves and long sleeves and pants. They are more likely to subcome to heat exhaustion. Because once over the other side they won’t really have time to stop and strip off the extra layers when running from border patrol.

      Hell it can probably make thermal cameras more effective to having g a cooler body with the back drop of hot as hell steel.

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    25 days ago

    Take a step back from the fascism, human rights violations, kidnappings, and concentration camps and just think about the fact that these people are in charge of the government. Regardless of politics, these people are just objectively stupid and have virtually no understanding of anything outside of knowing how to give speeches and spread propaganda.

    I know things are bad and will continue to get worse before they get better, but I do take some solace in the fact that these people are so incredibly stupid that they will never be able to run a productive or efficient government. It’s like watching as your boss makes his son a manager and seeing everything go to shit around him.

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    Simply bc Trump thinks it’ll make the fences too hot to climb. This was attempted and failed in Trump’s first term. The paint peeled after a year.