• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    23 days ago

    Modem Holocaust complete with an industrial scale cover up.

    We’re going to be reading history books written by Israelis in US classrooms that tell all about their glorious war of liberation in another ten years.

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      23 days ago

      It’s an old troll user who got banned for cause back in the day then went off the rails creating dozens to hundreds of alt accounts.

      Some day they’ll get the proper therapy and medication they need. Today is not that day. 😅

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        It’s an old troll user who got banned for cause back in the day then went off the rails creating dozens to hundreds of alt accounts.

        Some day they’ll get the proper therapy and medication they need. Today is not that day. 😅

        If you block the user, it will hide their removed posts.

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    23 days ago

    The Zio York Times decides to do some journalism now that the genocide is at its peak.

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        23 days ago

        One day, when it’s safe, when there’s no personal downside to calling a thing what it is, when it’s too late to hold anyone accountable, everyone will have always been against this.

        • Omar El Akkad
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    23 days ago

    Sadly when propaganda is 3/4 of the war, a lauded journalist is a type of commander. This was a calculated strike I assume.

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    Journalists do not get enough credit. Recently I heard the full ‘oh the humanity’ recording. It shocks me that its used as a joke because you hear the full thing and you follow the reporter as he starts to break down at what he is seeing its pretty horrific. But the whole time he stayed there telling people what was happening because as a journilist its his job to make sure the world understand what is going on. The video was being recorded separately and was certainly not being broadcasted for all he knew the job of informing the country what was happening rested soley on his shoulders and he did is absolute best and you can tell how hard it was for him to maintain some kind of composure.

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    I’m surprised the NY Times published this information, even if only as an opinion piece, given how long and hard (oh, so hard, with some of the slimiest half-truths, denials, cherry-picking and most differently charged language used anywhere) they’ve been propagandizing for the baby murderers.

    By the way, it’s hilarious that somebody created an account for a badly made spam both just to flood two posts related to Palestine and got banned within 1h or or so for 2 major communities.

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      The whole genocide narrative started with a NY Times story about Israel bombing a hospital. Turned out the story wasn’t true, and they retracted it.

      It’s actually a bit of a problem going the opposite way than you suggest. People in news organizations can be emotional and publish anti-Israel stories without proper confirmation because they’re sympathetic to Palestinians. And the stories you’re seeing on Hamas propaganda feeds that don’t get published isn’t because of some Jewish conspiracy, it’s because even emotional journalists can’t justify publishing raw propaganda with zero confirmation.

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        Sure mate, the UN Confirmed Genocide and Man-Made Starvation, is “people being emotional”, the various stories the NYT posted immediately after 7 October that later got shown as false and with some even retracted were not at all “raw propaganda with zero confirmation” and the relentless use of differently charged language when referring to Israelis and Palestinians (for example: the formed are “murdered”, the latter only ever “die”) aren’t at all biased and propagandistic.

        By the way, I’ve heard of this water-crossing realestate in New York selling for cheap and you sound like just the kind of person who would buy such a thing…

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          So… only Hamas tells the truth and everyone else in the world is lying?

          Yeah, someone here is being suckered…

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          I’m not Israeli nor Jewish, but I constantly get labelled a “zionist” anyway because I don’t fall in line with the crazy bullshit conspiracies promoted on this site. You’ve come up with ways of labeling people so you can make them “the other” and acceptable to hate. That’s the tactic of a hate group.

          The tactic of making it acceptable to hate a subset of Jews (while changing the terminology) has been used in past, particularly by leftists. Read up on anti-cosmopolitan campaigns in the Soviet Union. They also use the term anti-zionism back then too, because the Soviets didn’t want to sound like the Nazis.

          But whatever terminology gets used, when you have hateful intent in your movement, you’re in a hate movement. You go around saying the Jews/Globalists/Israel/Zionists/Cosmopolitans are controlling world governments and the media, it’s all the same thing.

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            Dude fucking hundreds of thousands of people are dying and starving and you’re arguing semantics from your nice safe place. And making up shit that people are saying. Go fuck yourself.

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    23 days ago

    I’ve totally lost track of what this post is about because I’m just looking at the 8000 mod removed comments by SlackShaolin.

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      Old troll discovered how to be a script kiddie today. Block them and they’ll be removed from your feed. They’re already banned with content removed so you’re not missing anything.

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          22 days ago

          When you see it, report it. It goes to the mods of the community, the admins for the instance of the community, and the admins of the users home instance.

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      Lol I thought you were exaggerating then I scrolled down, damn that’s a lot of comments removed

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    Even if one takes Israel’s allegations at face value — which I absolutely do not, given Israel’s track record — and entertains the idea that in 2013, at the age of 17, al-Sharif joined Hamas in some form, what are we to make of that choice? Hamas has been the governing authority of Gaza since 2006.

    So… maybe he was Hamas, what’s the big deal?

    Yeah if the guy was Hamas, he’s a valid target.

    So there was a lot of outrage over his death by news organizations around the world last week. Israel presented their evidence, and then… silence. That indicates news organizations consider Israel’s evidence to be at least credible.

    And then this opinion column comes out and this guy is saying “He’s not Hamas… and even if he was, it’s ok for him to be Hamas.” It smacks of the Trumpian “I didn’t do that, and if I did, it’s perfectly fine” style of logic.

    The silence of news organizations (other than Al Jazeera and alt media trash) on this and then this opinion piece making excuses about why it’s perfectly fine for Anas al-Sharif to be a member of Hamas… it kinda seems like he actually was a member of Hamas.

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      And here you are wrong. There is a difference between Hamas armed wing and government workers. For Israel they are the same. According to international law they are not.

      For Israel every male in Gaza is a Hamas fighter which is so inherently wrong. They simply kill those males with utter impunity.

      And if we have a bit more critical thinking, even if he was a legitimate fighter, why didn’t they kill him when he was alone. Why did they kill him when he was with his colleagues. Because they never said anything about the other victims. It is almost like there is a clear trend of killing local journalists and not allowing international ones, so that they can control the narrative.

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        For Israel every male in Gaza is a Hamas fighter which is so inherently wrong.

        That is not true. You’re being shown video of a guy that’s dressed like a civilian being killed by a drone and told that’s not Hamas because they look like a civilian. But Hamas doesn’t wear uniforms. They all dress like civilians. So is that guy a civilian or Hamas? Depends on who you believe.

        And that’s the horrible nature of Hamas. You may think that a military having their soldiers wear uniforms and clearly mark their vehicles as military is stupid because it makes them obvious targets. But we do this so in a war it’s easy to distinguish between military and civilians. This results in there being less civilian casualties. You may think that Hamas is being “smart” by dressing like civilians and hiding among the civilian population, but really it just results in higher civilian casualties. We respect soldiers for putting on a uniform because that’s them taking on additional risk to make civilians safer. Hamas doesn’t do this because why would they? More civilian casualties brings more sympathy for them, and more money being sent to them.

        And international law agrees with this. The reason why captured Hamas are treated as criminals and not prisoners of war is because that’s what international law considers them to be. If they wore uniforms they would be POWs, but since they don’t they are criminals. Of course if they wore uniforms the war would be over fairly quickly and there would be much fewer casualties. But this is why international law is the way it is. To avoid long drawn out wars with combatants that don’t wear uniforms resulting in a high number of cvilian casualties.

        Hamas is a criminal organization, and has been declared a terrorist group by most sensible countries for good reason.

        And if we have a bit more critical thinking, even if he was a legitimate fighter, why didn’t they kill him when he was alone.

        That’s not how wars work. It is expected for a military to keep their own civilians safe by building their bases apart from civilians (not under hospitals and schools) and wearing uniforms. The onus isn’t on your enemy to keep your civilian population safe, the onus is on your military to keep you safe. Hamas is doing the exact opposite of keeping Palestinian civilians safe, they’re using the tactic of purposefully putting their civilian population at risk and for some reason you think it’s fine for them to do this. It is not illegal in war to hit a target because your enemy insists on using civilians to protect themselves. Hamas is using cowardly tactics, and telling you this is a good thing to do and you’re believing them.

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          And here you are very wrong. Because Israel killed more than 60K people so far, and according to their calculations they killed 20K Hamas fighters, pretty much all the male victims above 16 years old from those 60K casualties. So according to their logic all the male victims are Hamas fighters, which is simply not true.

          And international law agrees with this. The reason why captured Hamas are treated as criminals and not prisoners of war is because that’s what international law considers them to be. https://www.icrc.org/en/document/FAQ-rules-of-war-ihl seems to disagree with you. And even if we give you the benefit of doubt. Who is saying who’s a terrorist and who’s a civilian without any proper due process. Without any court hearing, what happens with the everyone’s innocent unless proven guilty.

          That’s not how wars work. It is expected for a military to keep their own civilians safe by building their bases apart from civilians

          You mean exactly like IDF, whose headquarters is in the center of Tel Aviv, surrounded by Hospital, train station and a Shopping Mall. And mind you, that’s not the only exception.

          And speaking of terrorists, I am really wondering what you think of Irgun and Lehi, who were prescribed as terrorist organizations and then embedded in the IDF.

          I don’t have a problem condemning Hamas, the same way I would condemn any other terrorist organization. But can you do the same? And what is the justification of embedding radicalized elements in your regular army. This would be the same as post war Germany to use the same Nazis that were responsible for so many atrocities in their regular army.

          It is not illegal in war to hit a target because your enemy insists on using civilians to protect themselves.

          Recently Israel hit the same hospital 4 times killing scores of journalists and their whole justification was because Hamas had a camera there. They hit the same spot two times. Which by the way is a war crime.

          And why is Israel not allowing international investigations nor international press inside Gaza? What is your take on this.

          In Iran they proved capable of hitting a single apartment in a densely populated apartment building, but in Gaza they seem to have destroyed most of the civilian infrastructure and farmland, desalination plants, repeatedly blocked humanitarian aid, electricity, fuel deliveries, and food. Isn’t this a collective punishment?

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      Yes, that is indeed what a good journalist looks like.

      Especially one who won a Pulitzer for covering Palestinians. You know, the people in all those pictures. Almost like he needs to be around them to journal what’s happening. You know, for good journalism.

      How fucking cooked is your brain on propaganda to think this indicates anything to the contrary?

      You think someone taking a picture in front of a Ronald McDonald statue means they work at McDonald’s?

      Propaganda is easy to spot when it is this incredibly stupid. What’s your excuse to not spot it?

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          Damn he had connections with the government of Gaza? That’s crazy. Also thank you for confirming that Israel is a purely Jewish supremacist nation I guess.

          You’d be 100% the kind of monster that would yell about slave revolts being bad.

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          Show me as many pictures of this journalist with terrorist leaders as Trump with Epstein and maybe you could consider them close friends. Until then, you are exaggerating at best, or spreading clearly fake propaganda about a dead Pulitzer prize winning journalist at worst. If you aren’t state sponsored, grow the fuck up.

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      Ok, after some digging,the first picture Is him in 2021 at a pro hamas thing saying a parade of green and such, so make of that what you will. The second picture was taken in 2020 and involved him also stating (and I’m paraphrasing) to praise the people of gaza and to show the world what is happening to the people living there. The third pic I couldn’t find much except an article from The Australian which was behind a paywall.

      And the fourth pic is also hard to source, if anyone wants to take a crack at it. As for the guy who posted this, hey man, give us some context, I’ve seen pics of good people doing bad things  and bad people doing good things, pictures alone don’t mean shit without back story