Donald Trump’s new security directive labels anti-capitalist beliefs as a predictor of political violence. The irony: left-wing structural analysis actually pushes people away from lone-wolf attacks and toward mass organizing for change.

  • Archangel1313@lemmy.ca
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    15 days ago

    Since when is there even such a thing as a “political crime”, let alone any kind of “pre-crime”?

    You can’t criminalize someone’s political beliefs, unless you’re talking about making “thought crimes” a thing. And last time I checked “pre-crime” implies you haven’t actually committed any crimes yet…which makes you not actually guilty of anything.

    This whole fucking premise is based on stupidity.

    • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
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      15 days ago

      This whole fucking premise is based on stupidity control and power.

      FTFY

      See, if it were based on stupidity, that would imply these measures are based on good faith efforts to solve a real problem.

      What we have here is fabricated issues being “solved” with measures that don’t need to make sense. They just need it to give them more power, more control. It doesn’t matter if they look “stupid”. They aren’t acting in good faith to begin with.

    • falseWhite@lemmy.world
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      13 days ago

      You can’t criminalize someone’s political beliefs

      Clearly you can if you’re a fascist scum. I’m not surprised at all and things will only get worse if no one stands up to him.

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    14 days ago

    That’s funny because Trump isn’t a capitalist. In an open market, his businesses fail. He needs government interferencey China style.

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        14 days ago

        I remember running around twenty years ago asking people (generally educated successful people) how they define capitalism.

        Most people are not 100% sure, so they usually guess some form of market and blend it with consumerism.

        My guess is that most of this came from Mikhail Gorbachev advertising for Pizza Hut.

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        14 days ago

        And former eastern block =/= communism.

        I obviously used the mainstream meaning of that word.

        Fact is, Trump opposes free market capitalism because he’s a terrible business man.

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      14 days ago

      That’s a very narrow definition of capitalism. If free markets hinder the main function of the capitalist system (accumulating capital at the top), it will be eroded and abolished. Monopolies for example are much more profitable than competetive situations. Getting rid of or circumventing open market competition is always good business.

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    15 days ago

    “classifies” as a crime?

    What does that even mean?

    He isn’t a lawmaker.

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      15 days ago

      Basically providing a framework for who law enforcement should investigate as “suspicious”

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    14 days ago

    Are we starting to use the word “capitalist” the way the Nazis or Soviets used the word “socialist?” As a meaningless label for “the dictator’s side?”

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      13 days ago

      He may be dependent himself on public funding as much as Elon and the others, but, to be fair, so have all capitalists in history at some point in time or at some level.

      Pure capitalism is just a wild fantasy that would require complete disregard of human rights and/or huge advancements and investments in technology with the energy expenditure that entices.

      So yeah, capitalist has always been a swear word to me, but I see it used appropriately in this context and in general.

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    15 days ago

    Okay, now it’s Nineteen Eighty-Four. With hints of Minority Report, Fahrenheit 451, Brazil, and our old friend Idiocracy, of course.

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      14 days ago

      I used to scoff at the comparison to Idiocracy but at this point I’d actually prefer that timeline.

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      13 days ago

      and the precog is just Trump in a bathtub full of Sudafed watching Fox News and Newsmax on repeat.

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    14 days ago

    I really hope we can reach a point where we don’t give this guy headlines.

    “Trump declares that anybody that’s EVER made fun of him is currently being targeted by every international police force which he has command over, and also that the sky is purple” is a statement totally disconnected from reality. We DO NOT NEED an “Um, actually!” to disprove him.

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    13 days ago

    Is he talking about the shit he’s doing with the farmers? That’s a far departure from capitalism. Lock him up.

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    14 days ago

    “support for the overthrow of the United States Government,” is also one pre-crime per that report. That’s reflection right there.

    So Marx and Trotsky seemed to be against individual murdering of factory owners et alia. Does that imply that they would’ve been against the atrocities of Communist states that were perpetrated in their name, or would that have been fine because it was done by the masses in some sense?

    Neither saw it happen in great numbers: Marx died before any of his ideas manifested properly, and Trotsky of course was murdered by Stalin in 1940. Holodomor and Soviet Union purges had happened already at that point, but perhaps Trotsky might’ve thought that those were just the evil of Stalin instead of being a more general mistake of his whole ideology. People tend to think that their political philosophy cannot do bad things.

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      14 days ago

      “support for the overthrow of the United States Government,”

      Ahh the crime he tried to commit a few years back. Can’t have anyone else ever try the same thing.