• Naich@lemmings.world
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    4 months ago

    There’s nothing like living though Brexit to make you truly appreciate how terrible an idea it was.

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      4 months ago

      I wonder if there’s something about the English language that makes it’s speakers more susceptible to Russian propaganda somehow.

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        4 months ago

        Yes, and that thing is that English is the leading language for international communication, so Russia has plenty people that speak and write English well.

        Allegedly they tried to manipulate an election in France too, but the French of the Russian agents was so horrible, that the French could spot it immediately.

        Having the international language of choice is a big vulnerability in this situation.

      • SpontaneousCombustion@lemmy.world
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        4 months ago

        It’s not that.

        The twitter bots knew to talk about Spitfires over Dover and “sovereignty”, whatever that is.

        The older people fell for it because they hark back to “better times” when they had post WW2 rationing and no repercussions for their colonial past, like non-whites running the local supermarket.

        It’s more basic than you think.

      • De_Narm@lemmy.world
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        4 months ago

        It probably has the best translation tooling. On top of that, they even learn it as their second language.

        But I don’t think that’s a major factor. The UK always had special privileges within the EU and was probably just the most susceptible major country for the idea of leaving.

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          4 months ago

          But I don’t think that’s a major factor. The UK always had special privileges within the EU and was probably just the most susceptible major country for the idea of leaving.

          This is what is frustrating to me. There were always loads of news articles saying how the EU were making us do something or preventing us from doing something else. They ignored the fact that the UK was involved in all of those decisions and had a greater influence over them than many other EU member states.

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    4 months ago

    I would like to see the poll results after a hypothetical Frexit. As much as people bitch about how restrictive the EU is on countries and how much the bigger countries support the smaller countries, most of them forget how much of a pain in the ass it was before.

    I feel like Brexiters might have a more informed opinion on the benefits of being part of the EU.

  • FarraigePlaisteaċ (sé/é)@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Farage and his ilk need to become a fringe curiosity before the UK should be reconsidered for EU membership IMO. Big up Zack Polanski, though. I’d vote for him in my own county.

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      4 months ago

      I mean the EU member countries have their fair share of anti EU mainstream politicians. They are far from a curiosity these days.

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        4 months ago

        The issue isn’t anti-EU politicians once it’s in good faith. Von Der Leyen & Co. are rotten IMO, and are complicit in genocide for not using every lever at their disposal to sanction Israel like they rightly did Russia.

        It’s the bad faith, Kremlin-linked obstructionists howling at the moon about invented issues that are impossible to deal with and spread the most disinformation. Hungary should be jettisoned too, IMO, if they can’t change leadership soon.

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          4 months ago

          Mate, Bardella, Meloni, and the AfD are all right wing nuts. I’m sorry, putting the UK on the same bin as Hungary just because Farage lives here is nonsense.

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            4 months ago

            Both Russian assets, so it’s a fair comparison. He’s considered possibly the next PM by a few commentators I trust. If he isn’t, the current PM is still a genocide enabler. And the media landscape is worsening in the UK.

            By all means have more dismantlists in the EU if you like, but it’s an obvious net negative in my view.

            I would like new (or returning) members to provide genuine EU criticism that challwnges the hypocrisy and collusion regarding genocide, and calling out of the roll back of environmental standards. The general neoliberal mindset there makes me very uneasy. Russian assets aren’t going to help with any of that and neither will a neoliberal.

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    4 months ago

    The grass is always greener on the other side, until you realize the problem is that capitalism doesn’t work.

  • RaskolnikovsAxe@lemmy.ca
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    4 months ago

    Hey guys, it’s Canada, over here on the far shore… see me waving?

    Hey, yeah…we uhh are in need of some new friends that we can trust. We’ve got lots of stuff over here. We’ve been mostly cool. We gave our all in the last two big dust ups.

    Not to put the pressure on but we seem to be running out of runway.