Microsoft is working on a new project labeled Windows ‘K2’, intent on removing bloatware, reducing AI, and optimizing Windows 11 for gaming, with three focuses of ‘performance, craft, and reliability’.

the issue is not about performance, is about enshitification. I mean, do we need TPM? do we need Microslop account to login our pc/laptop? do they really need to shove Copilot into Windows?

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    The funny thing about AI is that it helps Linux transition in 3 ways:

    1. Copilot shoved everywhere is irritating

    2. Microslop abusing AI pushes one bug after another into windows

    3. AI makes transition to Linux much easier. I tried multiple times and failed, but now, it’s like having my own geeky friend who can help me solve any issue, sure… the guy hallucinates sometimes, but if you use your brain, it still can be really helpful.

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    This is such a huge W for linux. It legitimizes linux as a real competitor in so many eyes.

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    Microsoft adds the bloat themselves, and ever increasing telemetry reporting back, promises to update W10 for the lifetime of the device, reneges on it with W11 quoting security as its rationale but leaving 400 million users without security updates. Does all this at a time Linux is becoming very friendly and android phones have a desktop mode so they can be plugged into a keyboard and monitor and bypass the need for Windows. Microsoft has a bit of a think about the market value of its idiot direction and decides to remove a lot of the crap slowing the OS and give people back a little privacy, touts it as a new way of thinking about personal computing.

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      I’d say i’m cautiously optimistic but honestly i’m just not optimistic. They want to ‘remove bloat, reel back AI, etc’ and I’m just going to ask “how?”

      how can they possibly improve their OS when the past year updates to 11 have been the worst in the companies history. the past few months alone have been an absolute cluster fuck and that’s saying A LOT considering this the same company that gave us ME and Vista.

      Before rebuilding the OS they need to take a seriously look internally and rebuild teams, management, etc because its’ clear as day the company that they have currently cannot produce the potential OS they seem to want to produce.

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        You mention Windows Me and Vista as low points but Windows 8 was such a donkey that your memory must have blocked it so you could go on with your life. And you just know this wonderful new streamlined and privacy conscious version is going to look suspiciously like Windows 7 which most users wanted to stick with anyway.

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          You mention Windows Me and Vista as low points but Windows 8 was such a donkey that your memory must have blocked it so you could go on with your life.

          Good lord you’re right. I had completely forgotten about 8. I know I had it, I must have had it but I don’t actually remember using it. It’s like a gap there between 7 and 10 that is just gone from my head.

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          A lot can be said about Windows 8. I liked it. It was rock stable for me. It took EOL for me to migrate my gaming pc to windows 10 (due to baked in telemetry mostly).

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        That’s not gonna happen until they, at the very least, crash and burn. There are some very competent tech people at Microsoft, and none of them are at the C level or upper management.

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    16 days ago

    This sounds like a very good thing, right? They’ve got the message that we don’t want Copilot, we don’t want AI, we don’t want our computers to require an Internet connection, and they’re listening.

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            16 days ago

            Is the downstream behavior not almost identical? Is this pedantry for pedantry’s sake, or are you attempting to make a point?

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              The difference is they only care about shareholders and will do whatever to get enough people or corporate users back. That doesn’t mean they’re going to do what we all want.

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                So we all agree they’re listening to market share change

                Not sure what point you or the other one are attempting to make, but the original point is still valid

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              It’s pedantry. The inevitable result of not listening to your customers is losing customers. Losing market share is still customer feedback.

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      16 days ago

      I hope you were sarcastic… Because Microsoft’s new business model is AI. So Windows will continue to be their portal toward AI.

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    14 days ago

    Yeah this won’t win any Linux users back. At best, it will just slow the rate of users changing from Windows to Linux.

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    There’s nothing MS can do to make me trust them again. They can “love bomb” all they want, but a toxic ex is a toxic ex.

    Publicly traded corporations will always exploit anything and anyone they can get away with to maximize their profits. They will only improve just enough to trap you again, then the exploitation begins again.

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      a toxic ex is a toxic ex

      This, for sure, but if she wants to dance I’ll dance with her. 🤪

      For serious, tho: people change. I don’t expect mega corporations to ever change for the better. They’ll do whatever they need to get money and you can guarantee they’ll fuck you (the bad kind) as soon as you’re invested.

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        For serious, tho: people change. I don’t expect mega corporations to ever change for the better.

        at the very best, they can, on occasion, do something thats accidentally good.

        But that never really meaningfully alters the trajectory of evil.

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    They should try not sucking. Not spying on their users. Maybe let me tell the OS what I want it to do and not have to do whatever it feels like in any given scenario.

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    16 days ago

    And what will their ambitious plan be?

    Marketing, bribery, coercion, cheating. Those are the only things Microsoft has ever excelled at (pun intended), as software development is something they have NEVER done well

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    MS… The only reason why I still ise it is because I don’t have the time or nerves to get used to Linux in my current life.

    Getting and understanding the workarounds I need to get working just to play my two favorite games that don’t run on Linux is not something I will use my time on.

    I need a plug and play windows clone on Linux that runds everything I know out of the box, sadly.

    People here won’t like that, but it’s the reality gate that keeps many people aeay from switching.

    Well, if MS ever tries to force me into ID verification or subscription windows or based on AI at its core I’ll bite the bullet. But not before

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      15 days ago

      Consider giving Zorin OS a shot. Their particular distro is purpose-built to allow for easy migration away from Windows, into a Windows-like Linux environment. No terminals, and they make it easy to install and run .exe files. Their $50 pro edition includes some technical support as well.

      Personally, I am waiting for SteamOS Desktop to release. Once that happens, I will be comparing CachyOS, Zorin OS, and SteamOS to decide which best suits my power-casual life.