• DandomRude@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    Well, such measures are necessary when, instead of treating urgently needed foreign workers with respect, you prefer to resort to racism.

    Once again, this is proof of the consequences of the inhumane rhetoric of the CDU, CSU, and AfD: it is completely understandable that no one wants to work in a country where they are treated with hostility.

    But no, the German Government just carries on with their despicable racism and pretends that one of the most important aspects of the migration debate is not that numerous industries urgently need workers from abroad. Since the shortage of skilled workers cannot, of course, be covered by idiotic Nazis, pensioners are now supposed to step in. It’s really unbelievable.

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      1 month ago

      Despite racism, Mexicans still go to the US and Nepalese to Arabic countries. How much worse is current German racism?

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        28 days ago

        I am not able to directly compare current racism, but german racism has historically proven to be quite “efficient”.

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          28 days ago

          How much worse is current German racism?

          I know.

          It’s the current level that is difficult to judge.

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    In my opinion this is extremely unfair. To earn 2000€ after taxes and contributions to social security as a single person in germany you have to earn at least 3000€ a month and because social security is shared between employer and employee, you cost your employer closer to 3600€. So almost half of what you earn goes into taxes and contributions to social security. Over 500€ just for the pensions. And those 500€ don’t even include how much taxes are subsidizing the pension. At the same time a pensioner can get as much as you do(maybe even working full time for it), in addition to getting their pension that you are subsidizing and not pay any taxes on it.

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      1 month ago

      The unfair part is that pensioners shouldn’t have to work at all, and on top of that these rules are biased for pensioners in jobs that tend to be higher-paying in the first place - most of the jobs that are practically impossible to do for pensioners because they are too physically demanding are low-paying and often have workers drop out way before pension age because of back problems and the like.

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      1 month ago

      Yep… why not redistribute the tax load, make everything up to 2000€ tax free, increase taxes for higher income levels (>10k for example) drastically

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    1 month ago

    “Civil servants, tradespeople, the self-employed and those employed in agricultural and forestry industries are excluded from the scheme” this has to be the worst year to be german farmer: first, they made deal with mercosur (which was a pet project of von der leyen) and now this.

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    30 days ago

    …find these things pretty dangerous, it is a question of time that the economic system made financially unsustainable for retirees to retire so you get a society full of workers till their death. Rest must be legally imposed by intervention and social measures or any unintervented economic system will juice us out till the last bit of us.

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    30 days ago

    My coworker is happy about that. He is 70, single, healthy, and having a halftime office job keeps him busy, happy, and close to his coworker-friends. I can’t imagine him sitting at home, twiddling thumbs. That would probably kill him, or at least drive him insane.

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      30 days ago

      Good for your coworker, but what justifies him not paying taxes on 2.000€ per month, while university students can earn a maximum 556€ per month without paying taxes and social security.

      Especially considering that your coworker probably has a considerable wealth built up already, and gets his retirement on top.

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        30 days ago

        Well, he has a high skills job, in which he literally has decades of experience. Any student jobbing will probably take longer to earn the 556€. And this work time will be distracting from the main job: studying.

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            29 days ago

            No, income is. Imagine a student doing a job that earns him €2000 a month. How many hours will this take? This will be nearly a full time job. Is this person still a student then?

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              29 days ago

              Looks like you have no clue about living costs and every take you make is a different argument, lol.

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                29 days ago

                I know about our living costs here.

                And no, it is still the same argument. One person should only work a limited time in order to study and finish university. So it makes sense to put a certain ceiling to the amount spent on working.

                The other person is a highly skilled engineer who has nothing to do besides the job, and limiting this person to the lower amount tax bracket would limit him to 15 to 20 hours a month.

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              29 days ago

              German students are allowed to work at most 20 hours a week or they will be exmatriculated. Full time jobs are impossible.

              Wrong, see below.

              TL;DR: Only in one state prior to November 2024.

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                  29 days ago

                  Huh, I was nearly certain this was the case.

                  After a lot of research, apparently the state I live in (Baden-Württemberg) did have this rule.

                  In §60 Abs. 2 Nr. 4 LHG from December 2020 to November 2024:

                  (2) Die Immatrikulation nach Absatz 1 Sätze 1 bis 5 ist zu versagen, wenn

                  1. die Person in einem Dienst-, Arbeits- oder Ausbildungsverhältnis steht oder sonst beruflich tätig ist, es sei denn, dass sie nachweist, dass sie zeitlich die Möglichkeit hat, sich dem Studium uneingeschränkt zu widmen, insbesondere die erforderlichen Lehrveranstaltungen zu besuchen

                  This was dropped in the latest version. Combined with §62 Abs. 3 Nr. 1 (unchanged in the latest version):

                  (3) Studierende können von Amts wegen exmatrikuliert werden, wenn

                  1. ein Immatrikulationshindernis nach § 60 nachträglich eintritt,

                  You were effectively banned from working more than 20 hours a week which I believe comes from some court ruling that working any longer loses your legal student status and makes you inelligble for certain benefits.

                  Edit: Added links