• uenticx@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    There’s always an analog loop to curb censorship. It’s just a waste of money.

    • chiliedogg@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      Not for the people pushing for this Orwellian shit.

      Most people will just comply, and “most people” is who they want to spy on and control.

    • UnspecificGravity@piefed.social
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      3 months ago

      I guess its a good thing that the point if this is just to tie a real human to their online presence and protecting kids never actually mattered.

      You know, for a given value of “good” being “actually very very bad”.

    • Watermark710@piefed.social
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      3 months ago

      When I was little, my mom used to send me to the store with a note that said to sell me cigarettes, and that they were for her. When I started smoking, I used to reuse the notes to get my own smokes. I got my first fake ID at 13 so I could buy beer.

      • i078@europe.pub
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        3 months ago

        When I was 13 I could just buy beer, the trick was to make it look like you are helping your parents with groceries. So also pickup stuff like a carton of eggs, potatoes and milk. I never had any issue, but it was a different time and in Europe

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          3 months ago

          Yeah, that last bit is key.

          In German I think we were drinking in the clubs at that age. No “helping the parents with the eggs and milk” lol

      • Teknikal@anarchist.nexus
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        3 months ago

        My mum did the same thing she stopped when I used the £20 note to buy sweets, that was a lot of sweets back then.

  • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Today in: “Just let the parents parent.”

    It’s good to see a reminder that depending on the majority of parents to act in absence of real, tangible regulation is doomed to be a failure.

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      3 months ago

      I slayed my MP. I Photoshopped my id to have their picture and address. Explain how monumentally stupid the law and and how only two groups would support it. People of incredible incompetence or people receiving a Quid Pro Quo. Highlighted everything Mike Harris did to set himself up to make a fortune after being premier and more examples. Went over the ethics commission’s laws or lack thereof. Finshished with “i will be using this id to look at the best of weird porn every day” and I will be contacting the ethics commission with a copy of this letter every 5 years until you die. Invited them to share this with whomever they want. I tied their career to the whole thing.

      If they are going to sell me out to Palantir, I am going to fuck their shit up. There is a quid pro quo with every peice of legislation this bad and we have remind them that there are more of us than them.

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            3 months ago

            Not sure what you mean by that.

            I’m just writing an email to oppose this, my email is not like the above poster. I am just laying out arguments why this is a bad solution and will not work.

            Which is what we’re seeing with kids drawing moustaches and borrowing IDs at will.

      • Kowowow@lemmy.ca
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        3 months ago

        Oh that’s a great idea to use politicians to get past age checks assuming of course they don’t get butthurt enough to claim it’s full on fraud

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          3 months ago

          You have to have the word Parody on it somewhere. Then it is not fraud. The thing looks so stupid anyways and has the security feature markings from my id anyways. I am not fooling a human.

    • fizzle@quokk.au
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      3 months ago

      Politicians don’t seem to function this way though. They don’t concern themselves with implementation details. People will vote for age verification even if it doesn’t work.

  • wuffah@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    We want your children to be safer online so we forced them to self-identify with biometric data? Isn’t that part of what caused this in the first place?

    Privacy, security, and regulation is the answer here, not more surveillance capitalism. But that’s anathema to the business models of every social media company so instead we get this ham-fisted attempt at jamming the square peg of “digital advertising surveillance” into the round hole of “protecting children”. The mechanical action damages everything involved.

    This system is specifically and very effectively designed to monitor, analyze, addict, and sell people, and this “solution” just ends up being more engineering to that end. Asking it to selectively age-gate content is like inventing a global network for information transfer and then becoming outraged when it’s used for file sharing. Copy is an intrinsic operation of digital data, and exploitation is an intrinsic operation of social media. We’re asking it to do the opposite of what it’s created to do.

    Parents should be charge of filtering content for their children, and the government should be in charge of using the collective power of the people to regulate companies that exploit them instead of serving them. Asking social media companies to do it is backing the wolf truck up to the chicken coop while the guy hired to protect the chickens tells you “The wolves will protect the chickens from other predators!”

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      3 months ago

      No, all the danger to children comes from satanic pedophiles cold-messaging strangers from trailer parks in hell. Billionaires can always be trusted with sensitive data and photos of children. Parents also notoriously never do anything bad to their children.

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    3 months ago

    Good, good – teach the children that authority is bullshit. This kind of thing is more effective than book learnin’.

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    3 months ago

    Is it legal to “verify” my age to be a minor? Would less of my information be collected?

    …not that any of it is accurate anyway.