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    Anybody going there to test “how bad it is” is giving them traffic, which they can use to brag about its success. Personally, I’d rather completely ignore it and disregard whoever mention it one day as a source, which will never happen hopefuly.

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    It’s been fun watching Elon go from space Jesus to shorthand for any billionaire vanity project that will amount to nothing.

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      Anyone who knew much about space knew that was nonsense from the start, as colonizing a subantarctic volcano is literally more practical than colonizing Mars.

      And that’s assuming paradigm shifts in spaceflight. Turns out, they did not materialize at all. With SABRE air-breathing engines and Virgin-style stratolaunches dead, things actually went way worse than I expected years ago.

      Don’t get me wrong. SpaceX is great, Starship is cool, research in space is awesome. But ever since I’ve first read Musk’s public thoughts, he struck me as ‘not scientifically grounded,’ and I wondered how that incongruity would shake out.


      TL;DR: Truth never mattered, and it still doesn’t :(

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      All cars can catch fire, some more often, others more intensely. Doesn’t matter if it’s a swastikar or not.

      Instead of pitting EVs against ICE, let’s all push to reduce car dependence and instead encourage the development of public transit!

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    He also gave the example of a German Wiki community member who wrote a program to verify the ISBN numbers of books cited, and was able to trace notable mistakes to one person. That person ultimately confessed they had used ChatGPT to find citations for text references and the LLM “just very happily makes up books for you,” Wales said.

    Well this won’t be a problem with Grokipedia, because it only uses sources that are available online as pure text (I’m pretty sure not even PDFs are used by it).

    Wales thinks the public and the media often give Wikipedia too much credit. In its early days, he says, the site was never as bad as the jokes made about it. But now, he says, “We are not as good as they think we are. Of course, we are a lot better than we used to be, but there is still so much work to do.”

    Amen, it’s nice to see the level-headedness.

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      nah most of the time he just overpromises… rarely has he delivered anything at all, and when he does it’s such a clusterfuck that the word underdeliver feels super generous.

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      Not really.

      Remember that Elmo just lies his ass off almost all the time.

      Over promises and under delivery are such extreme understatements with him, almost everything bhe says is just pure imaginary bullshit

      Lying his ass off literally is the only thing he does well, it made Tesla stocks balloon to being overvalued somewhere in 10-100 times their actual value

      Remember hyperloop, that project that even high schoolers could identify as absolutely dumb? Billions and billions in investment money has been wasted on absolute bullshit that will never work.

      But what about SpaceX, I hear you type?

      Remember how we’d land on Mars in 2018, now 7-8 years ago? Yeah, Elmo is currently at about 1% of that particular promise. Again, it’s not under delivery, it’s just actual plain bullshit

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        Speaking of SpaceX, ISRO was able to come up with a design of a Reusable-launch vehicle in half the price & did it way before them

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        Hyperloop, Neuralink, Tesla Semi, FSD, Mars lander, Roadster, Boring company…But we sent Elizabeth Holmes to jail.

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    All he has to do is force it in front of people’s eyes instead of Wikipedia. It doesn’t actually have to be useful, just in the way.

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      If it doesn’t do anything useful, I don’t think any amount of shoving in front of people is going to amount to much uptake beyond some cursory fiddling to determine its uselessness.

      People hand out flyers to every passerby too, and nearly all of those end up in the nearest trash bin.

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          Those caught on because they’re basically addictive drugs. Furthermore, while it may be hard to remember at this late stage of the game, those services did have genuine value to some users at the beginning. Today’s versions of those products have gone through countless iterations since then, each one reducing value to the end-user and increasing value to the data buyers and advertisers, like the proverbial “slowly boiling the frog”.

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      One key difference: Conservapedia was young earth creationist, Grok is not. That amount of difference unfortunately enough to convince a lot of average Joes of credibility.

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      Not to sure about the latter part.

      Elmo will be bankrupt in not too much time but for the moment he has pockets so deep he single handedly could fund wikipedia for the next millenia. For as long as he isn’t bankrupt and alive, that turd will be around

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    ‘Not optimistic he will create anything very useful right now’

    Or ever create anything (he’s just stealing other people’s creations, at best)

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    Ultimately, this could highlight the incredibly high value of wikipedia as a common ressource, and might lead to better things there.

    Maybe.

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    Musk is just Nazi-washing what he stole from Wikipedia, he doesn’t have the base of volunteers and employees to maintain his latest toy. A year from now, it will be gone and forgotten, and we’ll all be shouting at each other to go vote.

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      well, the website only has one button, that redirects to the actions of Grokipedia with the options to buy or sell some.

      I guess you have to interact with their actions to use the thing?

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    It’s not about making something useful. He and a few others are cloning everything any of their cult might use to further fence them in from external information and entertainment.

    They’re having a harder time in entertainment, because artists tend to be more liberal, but they’re gaining ground there, too. After a certain point, they’ll just radically censor everything else.

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      This is what scares me. The fact that they are doing it at all. It’s providing more spaces for people to shut themselves in completely with the information they want. These fucking desperate bigots will never be satisfied until the entire world reflects their bigoted ass beliefs, but since that will never happen they will fight a civil war for Elon out of sheer ignorant self obsession, instead

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    They are going to clone Wikipedia, then use some flimsy excuse to get it shut down under something like “anti conservative bias”. He’ll position Nazipedia to replace it.

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        It’s going to be very hard to maintain with a cohesive group of editors if it’s fractured in to different servers with everyone hosting a different copy. The current data may live on, but it’ll be a zombie.