Every time you consider that not holding your opinion is “objectively stupid” you should stop a moment to reflect what those words mean.

Thanks, but I’m past elementary school and not here to explain the difference between calling out a direct opposition between stated goals and actual actions, vs “my opinion is the only objective truth”.

Your whole post is incredibly naive.

My European perspective is that defending corporate right as an alternative to fascism is an acceptable emergency measure while there are big credible efforts for large scale reforms to at least have a real left voting option, but it’s not by far a solution to the problem. And if you want that common platform to be the democrats, they will have to change a lot.

Like centuries of bipartisanism will be magically turned into a Euro-style multiparty coalition system in 3.8 years.

It’s just fucking absurd that people can be beat up and tortured physically and psychologically but I’m being asked to be less mean because it will hurt feewings.

I consider enabling the “stick” to be beat the fuck out of you just because you’re “not into carrots” to be objectively stupid. I’m a Euro transplant and I can’t see how it is less stupid from a European perspective. The saddest part is that my wife and I have recession-proof professions, people who got us into this situation don’t.

to all the American leftists useless idiots who refused to vote against trump

FTFY. Voting against trumpy was the easiest decision for anybody who opposes fascism.

I have zero expectation that Tesla RoboTaxi will arrive this summer as promised.

RoboTaxis will also have to “navigate” the Fashla hate. Not many will be eager to risk their lives with them

people can make social media accounts full of soft core rat erotica just for travel purposes.

My favorite bullshit from the MAGAs had been “this is not a democracy, it’s a republic”.

It used to be both, now it aspires to be neither.

Does this mean that 1 RTX4090 can do it in a week?:)

I’m 100% certain that LLMs are smarter than half of Americans. What I’m not so sure about is that the people with the insight to admit being dumber than an LLM are the ones who really are.

They’re effectively the illuminati conspiracy theorists have been trying to find for many years now.

This is spot on.

Time to look into purchasing Swedish National Bonds, 'cause those Grippens will be grippin.

the hero we need to fight click bait

Step 1: Make insanely stupid design decision to save $2

Step 2: Sell reversal as an upgrade

Ask Jamal Khashoogshi

no. it’s a “don’t believe them because they are lying” thing.

Fascism is slightly more diverse and thus adds more opportunities for apologists to relativize. Hence the specific choice.

yeah it’s a philosophical question the answer to which changes with the times (like, does free speech/expression even mean the same thing in the 1700s as in the present era where “speech” is delivered and amplified by machines without even the necessity of direct human involvement).

I know reading comprehension is harder when you’ve already made up your mind about what I think, but you’re better than this. I hope.:)

I really find it statistically baffling how many times that is the first response…sophisticated sounding titles works for you until you actually have to explain things.

The point of my post is that some of the loudest proponents of free speech have ulterior motives. No more, but definitely no less. I’m not here to relitigate the limits of free speech no matter how hard you want to steer the discussion in that direction.

On the other hand, if you come to discussions with this many preconceived notions and generalizations wrapped in a metric ton of condescension, then perhaps you might be the driver of your own “statistical bafflement”.

America has litigated this multiple times & you had strong arguments from both sides, but in the end free speech won & I believe it was the right choice. I’d suggest you actually study history & those trials a bit more.

You are assuming ignorance from others while projecting ideas from other discussions you’ve had in the past onto my original post. I purposely avoided making any statements on how to approach or resolve the tolerance paradox because it’s complicated. Nazis lying about their affinity for free speech isn’t.

Interesting read.

They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The antisemites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert.

This is what we see these days. Trump and his followers lying is normalized, i.e., they are not “obliged to use words responsibly”, whereas anybody argues against trumpists is.

They fear only to appear ridiculous or to prejudice by their embarrassment their hope of winning over some third person to their side.

This is what changed since then. They no longer fear being seen as ridiculous or stupid. They embrace it.