Rinse - Plebbit Dev

Some things, in my most humble opinion, should be censored such as hate speech and overt racism

You can choose to filter those out, for example Seedit by default filters out NSFW content. Plebbit is not pure chaos, it’s a p2p protocol that allows communities and users to connect if they really wish to with no intermediaries.

So every user is their own moderator… which just sounds like a ton of extra work

Once we have the labeling services it will be easy and a single click to use someone’s else labeling.

Also each community moderate however they see fit, as a community owner you’re incentivized to keep their community free of spam and derailing posts etc.

Mastodon where I can pick a server whose moderation practices I agree with, is already decentralized into countless servers and allows the user to spin up their own instance.

P2P is superior to federation in many ways though

Keyword filtration as a moderation technique is woefully ineffective vs trolls who simply find “clever” new ways to harass with intentional misspellings, dogwhistles, etc.

I agree, but it’s not just keywords, it’s community-based labeling services, so you could have 10+ people labeling on a single content-labeling extension. You could also have AI agent sifting through the network and labeling content with minimal human intervention.

Meanwhile, you’re pitching this thing as “uncensorable” which automatically appeals to the worst elements available. Maybe I’m wrong and it’ll be the perfect format for internet discussion, but I’m going to have to see that actually happen before I jump on board.

You can filter your feed by tags/keywords, and eventually we’re gonna have labeling services, similar to Bluesky where you can subscribe to someone’s else blocked keywords.

In centralized social media, there’s only a single entity deciding what’s allowed, with Plebbit that decision is pushed to the edges of the network. So each node can decide what it wants to see, nothing is pushed on the end user.

What do you mean fragmented?

It’s a terrible analogy, I think of Plebbit as the Bittorrent of social media. Plebbit is not built on top of a blockchain, it’s a pure p2p network

Voting power decided by buying power is about the most undemocratic system possible short of autocracy

The token is not forced upon anyone, and even if we start including it in the clients somehow, anybody can fork the clients and remove any token related stuff out of it.

Tokenizing your own project is a great way of supporting development without selling shares to VCs who only care about hyper growth, regardless of the ideals of the project.

Obfuscating the purpose and structure of your organization to either intentionally or unwittingly dodge regulations that would protect your shareholders is not a great look.

Not sure what you mean by that, everything we do is out in the open.

Lol pretty sure if we’re funded by these guys we would’ve been way faster with our development. P2P is hard, many pitfalls

Sure, I’m just worried it’ll have similar problems as reddit, just without global admins to fix/enforce things

I disagree, I think Reddit ruined their own subreddits. If you’re a community owner, you know your community best and know how to moderate it. They’re the most invested in it after all.

Elaborate

Each community (equivalent of subreddit) is essentially a keypair, and whoever runs the community and has access to the keypair can do whatever they want. They can ban people + assign moderators + etc, there are no global admins.

Enjoy, it’s a bit buggy but we’re always looking for feedback and help if you’re interested. All code is open source and GPL v2

Federated has many of the pitfalls of emails like a few providers holding most of the network captive, we believe a full p2p design similar to BitTorrent is the best way forward for full sovereignty of communication.

Feel free to check out Seedit, it’s the most mature Plebbit client so far. There may be bugs here and there but we’re working on it every day to make it better.

We’re still working on it and getting very close to releasing MVP

If we could achieve bittorrent decentralization along with their usage numbers, I’d consider it a success

Plebbit is not a blockchain, it’s P2P and all content on the network is content addressable. There’s nothing to “sync”

Not true, it’s free software released under GPL V2, check out plebbit-js

I took a look at their whitepaper and it says that they’re not using blockchain at all

If community owners want to set a blockchain name like hello.eth or hello.sns it’s possible, but it’s optional.

It’s some sort of proprietary peer to peer algorithm. Is this something that changed in implementation?

Not true, it’s free software released under GPL V2, check out plebbit-js

but it’s run by a DAO that operates using a governance token, which is not exactly great.

What is the problem with DAOs? I think they’re a great way of facilitating coordination between anons on the internet

The reason why we picked Blockchain name systems is because they’re the only way of having a full control over a name. There are lot of examples online with people getting their DNS revoked. What do you think the problem is with blockchain components?

Also, blockchain are only used for resolving names, which is a small part of Plebbit, the rest of stack is P2P.

posts would be markdown files

Seedit, which is a plebbit client actually parses posts as Markdown, try it on Seedit

images would only be allowed as links to an image hosting platform

It’s already this way with Plebbit, we only allow text.

Having it be open source and every member with a fork (I don’t know if there’s a way to auto update forks) so we don’t risk losing everything if the host shuts down (I don’t use mastodon because apparently you can’t export posts)

On Plebbit all clients are open source with GPL V2, they can also be self hosted easily with a single click. Check out seedit repository Seedit