Well I certainly found someone too stupid to figure out the 3rd number in the sequence 1, 2, …

How could anyone figure it out when the third number isn’t there

Find me a good reason that cars should start for people who are drunk.

“I deserve to be able to hide, very specifically, my BAC from an inanimate object that would only prevent me from starting a car while drunk. I pinky swear I have a reason to want this other than wanting to drive drunk” come on

try real fucking hard. Why would somebody be fine with all of the other surveillance in modern cars but draw the line at a passive BAC detector that would stop the car from starting. What might that imply about what they really really want to hide.

Find me a good reason that cars should start for people who are drunk.

“I deserve to be able to hide, very specifically, my BAC from an inanimate object that would only prevent me from starting a car while drunk. I pinky swear I have a reason to want this other than wanting to drive drunk” come on

try real fucking hard. Why would somebody be fine with all of the other surveillance in modern cars but draw the line at a passive BAC detector that would stop the car from starting. What might that imply about what they really really want to hide.

what part of this law would require you to buy a new car

no because it doesn’t fucking exist which is why the NHTSA is telling congress to push this off.

wow imagine if you didn’t have the right to operate a car. they might even make you put yourself in a database and put some kind of identifiable marking on the outside of your car.

The only thing the proposed regulation requires is passive BAC detection and preventing cars from operating above the legal limit. That still seems fine to me. The regulation would not require that information to leave the vehicle. Every new car is ALREADY recording a shit ton of stuff that isn’t your BAC and providing it to anyone who wants to buy it.

This is the dumbest possible place to draw the line.

damn that sounds like valid concerns to raise if this tech was real and being implemented and you actually had real examples.

I bet this stuff that doesn’t exist would have a 5000% false positive rate and be based on a little camera drone that pops out of the car and follows you around to watch you to see when you drink

woe is me, my car wont start when I’m drunk. I am so oppressed

Find me a good reason that cars should start for people who are drunk.

“I deserve to be able to hide, very specifically, my BAC from an inanimate object that would only prevent me from starting a car while drunk. I pinky swear I have a reason to want this other than wanting to drive drunk” come on

I guess nothing is implied by saying ‘a fictional car that can tell you’re drunk should let you drunk drive’ or saying ‘my BAC behind the wheel is my business and nobody elses’

How does a breathalyzer interlock violate your privacy.

No part of this regulation, which again doesn’t even exist, requires any data to leave the vehicle. And even if it did, the options here are not ‘vehicle that respects your privacy’ and ‘vehicle that spies on you to see if you’re drunk driving’. The options on the table are ‘vehicle that tracks your location and provides it to corporations and the government’ and ‘vehicle that does that while also checking your BAC’

Bull. Shit.

This regulation does not exist beyond the concept of ‘cars shouldn’t start if they detect that you’re drunk’. Either they’re ignoring the actual directive to the NHTSA and using it as a surrogate to get mad at the concept of surveillance or arguing that a theoretical car that can tell you’re drunk should let you drive it anyway.

I mean I am getting pissed because it’s mostly the first one. People credulous enough to read this yahoo story and not get suspicious of ‘driver cameras in every car STARTING NEXT YEAR connected to AI that will decide if the car starts’. like yeah I probably would have first heard of this now and from a tiny article on yahoo that self-contradicts and doesn’t have any sources, seems legit. Or they literally just read the headline and they let the confirmation bias wash over them.

I thought the ragebait part of the yahoo post was so obviously bullshit that it wasn’t even worth calling out at first but apparently every lemming just took it at face value and thinks I’m defending ‘AI camera watching you and sending live video to fbi’.

muh right to drive drunk

Go fuck yourself moron. Go find some other ragebait fantasy to masturbate with if you don’t have anything real to say.

No dumbass. Be specific. What part of a passive breathalyzer is ‘spying on you’. Stop trying to pivot to the abstract concept of surveillance. Because literally the only actual fact behind this clickbait is that the NHTSA is supposed to mandate passive BAC detection. That’s it. The rule does not exist yet, the headline is pure fiction. The tech is pure fiction.

Any bullshit of ‘ohhh this is going to uhhhhh oppress me for wrongthink’ is pure fiction. There are no specifics behind this thing that isn’t real so you’ve just wrapped it up into this abstract blob of ‘spying’ because it’s something you can get mad at.

Also obviously the thing that doesn’t exist hasn’t influenced safety statistics what the fuck are you talking about.

Explain which part of this unimplemented regulation that would require passive BAC detection is oppressing you and preventing you from driving a car made before it goes into effect

Help help, I’m being oppressed by this passive breathalyzer interlock.

You don’t even know what ‘it’ is because it isn’t real. You are literally imagining stuff to scare yourself with.

my wild take of ‘maybe get mad at stuff that is actually real instead of reading a clickbait headline that is already detached from reality and then going even further making up even more stuff that isnt real to scare yourself with’

Can you explain how this tech that doesn’t exist will be used against you?

This regulation, which doesn’t exist but was due to be implemented, is not meaningfully different than requiring a passive breathalyzer interlock.