It’s the ignoring of people’s issues that’s the key problem. If the people are hurting and the government aren’t doing anything to help them, preferring to bail out corporations or enable their exploitation of their customers/employees, then the people will look for alternatives to vote for.

All the extremists need to do is pay lip service and they have a ready made electoral platform.

No, which is why people saying “Buy it and don’t connect it to the internet” isn’t helping. More people need to not buy it and tell other people not to buy it.

To get them to stop they need to lose both the original sale and the additional advertising revenue. Right now their thinking is:

• People are buying our TVs
• Putting advertising on them isn’t causing our sales to drop
• Therefore it’s costing us next to nothing to do.
• It often gets us extra revenue if they connect to the internet.
• If they don’t connect, we still more than covered our costs.

There is no downside for them. Only upside. The equation needs to change for them to stop doing it.

Ta

They’re industrial boxes with a screen. Not aesthetically what I want in my living room. The displays are chosen for their longevity, not their picture quality. They’re often actively cooled with fans, so adding a noise level to their operation.

I don’t like the hate speech laws because I think they can be abused to include far too much, however NO LAW SHOULD BE CHANGED IN THE UK IN THE PERSUIT OF TRADE WITH THIS CUNT.

He can fuck right off.

You’re still rewarding bad behaviour. They still put all the crap on and made the sale anyway.

I agree, but with TVs (or large displays" we’re at the point where there are no good options. Commercial displays are over engineered for the home and lag in technology Vs home TVs. So they’re not an option. Lg and Samsung are the display technology leaders, but their TVs are full of crap— so no. Monitors don’t go large enough for the living room.

Guess I’m stuck with what I have.

The US has an export ban from Taiwan?

For a company like blue sky, you bow to all governments, or you bow to none. One way you become so milquetoast nobody wants to use you because nothing interesting is ever said. The other way you become 4chan.

“fake news” - the mark of authenticity.

…and for that you get down voted.

I think you expressed that well. If you can’t own your thoughts, you can’t own anything.

Harris was the “more of the same” candidate. If you saw things getting better, that sounded good. If you’re in pain, that’s more pain.

There’s a lot of America in pain.

Trump’s base used to be the democrat base. Blue collar workers getting screwed by corporations. Democrats are polling so low because their actions led to this group being overlooked.

Even being lied to feels good after you’ve been taken for granted / ignored. At least you feel seen.

Somebody probably accused them of the “No true Finn” fallacy.

If Europe is at war with russia it’s unlikely china would willingly provide the steel we need.

I think they’d very happily sell to both sides of that conflict. I feel China would happily see Russia disappear up it’s own butt. They’re an annoying neighbour on all fronts.

Jingye, intended to turn off the furnaces in a way that it would effectively never be possible to use them again without incurring a lot of time and extraordinary cost.

Yes, that’s the sabotage I spoke of.

Forcing the import of Chinese steel wasn’t something I’d considered though.

The pipeline is already shut-off. It closed at the start of this year when the contract ran out. Only Hungary was pissed off when this happened, and fuck Orban.

The only reason the US wants control is to turn it on.

Tata were offered the same deal as Jingye. Tata accepted and so Port Talbot will reopen after modernisation. Jingye didn’t accept and look to be trying to sabotage the plant to stop losing money.

Different circumstances.

I’d probably say it was the one realm where they could exceed their human counterparts.